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for mass pvp you would take....?
HE 46%  46%  [ 19 ]
PR 54%  54%  [ 22 ]
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o rly? 10 tanks fullbuffed with healers pwn all archers ^^


:D:D imo tanks+ warlords should be used more at siege :D...ppl think they are useless but THEY ARE NOT :D


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EUPHORIA wrote:
o rly? 10 tanks fullbuffed with healers pwn all archers ^^


:D:D imo tanks+ warlords should be used more at siege :D...ppl think they are useless but THEY ARE NOT :D


in every server i played they are used...and in sieges HE ftw in xp HE ftw in pvp HE ftw


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EUPHORIA wrote:
in oly it sux


better than PR :P worst than SR


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xristos92 wrote:
EUPHORIA wrote:
in oly it sux


better than PR :P worst than SR



U bet?? PR will kick HE's ass...at oly Hex/PB owns ur ass


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xristos92 wrote:
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in oly it sux


better than PR :P worst than SR



U bet?? PR will kick HE's ass...at oly Hex/PB owns ur ass

ye and PR has more debuffs than these 2 xP HE has what? nice hair? Oo

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mibustas wrote:
xristos92 wrote:
EUPHORIA wrote:
in oly it sux


better than PR :P worst than SR



U bet?? PR will kick HE's ass...at oly Hex/PB owns ur ass

ye and PR has more debuffs than these 2 xP HE has what? nice hair? Oo


Yep.


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EUPHORIA wrote:
o rly? 10 tanks fullbuffed with healers pwn all archers ^^


how they will hit archers?:)) untill they get on the wall,archers can take a coffee break

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mibustas wrote:
EUPHORIA wrote:
o rly? 10 tanks fullbuffed with healers pwn all archers ^^


:D:D imo tanks+ warlords should be used more at siege :D...ppl think they are useless but THEY ARE NOT :D

On retail I used warlord + dagger combination. I can't describe what a fucking mess we made.
One warlord party, one dagger party, full supported. We razed 4 of their parties with just 1 dagger and 3 warlords dead.

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in every server i played they are used...and in sieges HE ftw in xp HE ftw in pvp HE ftw

Actually they're not used that much, because people think they're useless, and they're definitely not.
In sieges HE is only good for defence... In xp HE is decent, pr is ahead. In pvp SR is the pwn.

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in oly it sux


better than PR :P worst than SR

Classic human lover. HE is one of the worst oly classes. Pr owns the HE without any problem just because of hex and defence/attack aura. This is self buffed. The HE has NO chance if he's equal to the pr in both equipment and luck. In oly it's more disputable, but the pr has the advantage because the HE will most likely retreat into his corner and snipe. The pr will just hide behind the wall and hex him before he can hit.

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mibustas wrote:
xristos92 wrote:
EUPHORIA wrote:
in oly it sux


better than PR :P worst than SR



U bet?? PR will kick HE's ass...at oly Hex/PB owns ur ass


hm...lets see..HE chases Pr and when battle starts both use stun human=high con so stun failed se=low con so stun success....2nd HE uses SNIPE! +300 range dont forget that! PR uses what? hex/PB till he uses both he will have recieved 2 shots and after he will run or what? i dont get it....
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mibustas wrote:
xristos92 wrote:
EUPHORIA wrote:
in oly it sux


better than PR :P worst than SR



U bet?? PR will kick HE's ass...at oly Hex/PB owns ur ass

ye and PR has more debuffs than these 2 xP HE has what? nice hair? Oo


actually when i was bd and xping with my friend we had PP buffs lvl 66...we were going in the middle of a big cata room he sniped and WE PWND!! if he was PR what he would do? hex=-mp or dead eye -20% attack speed?
less attack speed=less criticals=less dmg!


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xristos92 wrote:
mibustas wrote:
xristos92 wrote:
EUPHORIA wrote:
in oly it sux


better than PR :P worst than SR



U bet?? PR will kick HE's ass...at oly Hex/PB owns ur ass


hm...lets see..HE chases Pr and when battle starts both use stun human=high con so stun failed se=low con so stun success....2nd HE uses SNIPE! +300 range dont forget that! PR uses what? hex/PB till he uses both he will have recieved 2 shots and after he will run or what? i dont get it....
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EUPHORIA wrote:
in oly it sux



haha I can tell u that ur theory is omfg so wrong... u think that even if human's stun land u will finish ur enemy fast enough? no way...PR's critical are way better than HE's and about atk speed DPS isnt lower with Dead eye so gtfo

better than PR :P worst than SR



U bet?? PR will kick HE's ass...at oly Hex/PB owns ur ass

ye and PR has more debuffs than these 2 xP HE has what? nice hair? Oo


actually when i was bd and xping with my friend we had PP buffs lvl 66...we were going in the middle of a big cata room he sniped and WE PWND!! if he was PR what he would do? hex=-mp or dead eye -20% attack speed?
less attack speed=less criticals=less dmg!


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xristos92 wrote:

hm...lets see..HE chases Pr and when battle starts both use stun human=high con so stun failed se=low con so stun success....2nd HE uses SNIPE! +300 range dont forget that! PR uses what? hex/PB till he uses both he will have recieved 2 shots and after he will run or what? i dont get it....


actually when i was bd and xping with my friend we had PP buffs lvl 66...we were going in the middle of a big cata room he sniped and WE PWND!! if he was PR what he would do? hex=-mp or dead eye -20% attack speed?
less attack speed=less criticals=less dmg!


about stun.. who says HE can't get stunnned???????
PR in cata rox:HEX, plus with dead eye his p att increases also, and he doesnt have a low att speed with proper buffs.about his MP :he ahs body to mind so beat it, he can kite, he can have a SE with him, he can eat an elixir of mental strength.less attack speed less criticals? why cuz u shoot more???no. if u score crits u score.every archer has high crit rate comapred to other classes.put focus on draconis and song of hunter plus the buffs and maybe a prophecy and u will score big time with PR.


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hm...lets see..HE chases Pr and when battle starts both use stun human=high con so stun failed se=low con so stun success....2nd HE uses SNIPE! +300 range dont forget that! PR uses what? hex/PB till he uses both he will have recieved 2 shots and after he will run or what? i dont get it....


actually when i was bd and xping with my friend we had PP buffs lvl 66...we were going in the middle of a big cata room he sniped and WE PWND!! if he was PR what he would do? hex=-mp or dead eye -20% attack speed?
less attack speed=less criticals=less dmg!


about stun.. who says HE can't get stunnned???????
PR in cata rox:HEX, plus with dead eye his p att increases also, and he doesnt have a low att speed with proper buffs.about his MP :he ahs body to mind so beat it, he can kite, he can have a SE with him, he can eat an elixir of mental strength.less attack speed less criticals? why cuz u shoot more???no. if u score crits u score.every archer has high crit rate comapred to other classes.put focus on draconis and song of hunter plus the buffs and maybe a prophecy and u will score big time with PR.


lol...i bet you are talking 100% theoriticaly... are you gonna lose PP and BD bufs for sws and SE? NO WAY!!!! and where are you gonna find sws,se,bd,pp 78lvl same time and have your main account farming? these buffs are only in clan parties...ALSO!!! believe MP ends with body to mind too!!! so FORGET hex in archer this is high lvl bd job: 3 dances up/fast mp regen/hex mobs(sometimes not all^^)
Dead eye offers +20% crit dmg but removes -20% attack speed so slightly increase in TOTTAL DMG!
on the other hand snipe adds DMG but you stay immovable so He with snipe=more dmg in xp


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Kata wrote:
about stun.. who says HE can't get stunnned???????


He can get stunned, but has lower chances.

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PR in cata rox:HEX, plus with dead eye his p att increases also, and he doesnt have a low att speed with proper buffs.about his MP :he ahs body to mind so beat it, he can kite, he can have a SE with him, he can eat an elixir of mental strength.


Maybe in 50- cata, where solo is still possible with an archer buffed by a SE. Hex is BD's job, SK's even better. Also btm sux, while soloing in catas with an archer that can not exploit vr.

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less attack speed less criticals? why cuz u shoot more???no. if u score crits u score.every archer has high crit rate comapred to other classes.


Still, HE's crit rate > PR's crit rate. Associated with atk speed it counts for dps. The thing is that HE has less evansion w/o +4 DEX.

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i though we are talking about PVP and mass pvp .. fuck the stupid pve...archers suck there..the thing is that PR is way better dmg dealer than HE but he dies way faster too


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mibustas wrote:
i though we are talking about PVP and mass pvp .. fuck the stupid pve...archers suck there..the thing is that PR is way better dmg dealer than HE but he dies way faster too


thats what we say now....i think he isnt in xp...neither in sieges....


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