I love people that post 'this class owns its a fact blahblahblah' and never back it up. Whatever happened to having proof to back up your claims? Damn. even if I don't along with people like Icarus, I absolutely love him, cause I can have an intelligent debate with him, and it's not just 'lallala stfu noob im right ur wrong!!1" (:

Debates are pointless when one side tries to convince the other,the results are...unstable, especially when talking about La2 >[:}

if you really want to see what SK are able to, go on http://www.l2warfare.com
many pvp videos with sk agains many classes (include DA and Destroyers)
btw DA or SK, all depends how you play your class

hahaha i told you the setup and i said in the right hands the sk owns da everytime.if you want proof,go pvp.i stated my opinion to the question "Which is better?"
and i didn't say stfu noob etc.
da has panther that he can't heal
sk has cubics that can't be destroyed
da has more hp/cp
sk has more damage/debuffs
sk has paralyse
sk has hex
sk has freezing strike
sk has arrest
sk has confusion
sk has life leech which is way better than da's
sk has attack/defense aura
sk has guard stance and aegis.
need more?

Adrian, all you did is numerate what the sk can do. Let me complete.
Sk got arrest. DA got shackle.
Sk got guard stance and auras. Da got majesty, iron will and important reflect damage.
Sk got freeze strike? Da got hamstring.
Want more? Be my guest:
Sk has stun weakness, he's locked on concentrating anti-stun, da has a free choice over extra reflect damage, more defense rate to compensate the relatively small block rate, even a paralisys resistance given by dc set. Or he can go for even more pdef, using ic set. Sks can't really use ic, i mean... What about stun resist? If he goes against daggers it's fine. But a combination of archer and dagger could be pretty nasty.

And, DarkPassion, sorry i overreacted in the earlier topic it just seemed to be a bit odd. I am pleased too, that we can have a creative debate.

In mass pvp every class can suck or rule in the end it ALWAYS depends on the skills of the player not of the character i have seen SKs rule in mass pvp and SKs that suck even against mobs....so..no point here

SK's and DA's, raw, don't have much different P atk. Only one point difference of STR.

Check out the IC set shield bonus. + Bleed and Poison resistance.

Also, a Dark Panther makes for an awesome glass cannon. 1.6k P atk, 550 P def, 500 M def, 5k HP, 270 attack speed and the critical rate of a blunt, unbuffed.

With full buffs, it gets 2.5k P atk, 700 P def, 650 M def, 10k HP, 550 attack speed and 110 critical rate. Not much, but it's definitely gonna do some serious damage while it's alive.

If you're gonna go -STR, I'm gonna have to say your damage is dependent on cubics // bleed. Even if you debuff the shit out of me, With +str, and your -str, our DPS won't be much that different.

Icarus, maybe you'd care to add me on MSN, X-fire or AIM? PM me, if you wish.

DA whitout panther suc.ks .....paralyzes that panther = DA dead... SK RULEZ (u forgot SK has hex) my opinion

SK FTW FTW and FTW for rbs and Olympiad Games is the best tank .That's my opinion.

skills:
Arrest power 10 same as Shackle power 10
Confusion p 19 same as Horror but only p13 and when use confusion the da will attack an other person.
Life leech p 15 - Divine Heal p 9 Same skills, but life leech damamge the DA
DA have life scavenge ... but it is unusable in the arena.
SK have some lvl 2 selfbuff Defense Aura, Attack Aura, Deflect Arrows lvl4!
SK have Freezing Strike p 24 DA Hamstring power only 14
SK have hex, decrase the p def about 25% power 15
SK have power brake decrase p atk about 25% power 17
SK have poison power 5
DA have Majesty power 3 it decrase the evasion, and incrase the p def.
DA have shield stun p 52 SK have Sting which cause bleeding.
SK have Shadow sense: + accuracy at night, DA have relax , but i think da will not sit down to regenerate.
DA have Shield of Revenge togle skill p 1 which reflect back some damage
SK have Magical Mirror p 1 - DA have Physical Mirror.
SK have Lightning Strike p 5 if succes paralyze for minutes! if not same damage as drain healt.
DA have Reflect Damage p 3
SK have Shield bash DA have Slam
SK have Aegis passive skill p1, shield defence from all direction.
SK have Guard stance
SK have cubics, DA have Panther.
DA have iron will p 3 incrase the m def.
All skill what not been solved here are same.

i want to say only 1 think if u want to see a ood pvp with tankers u mustn' t have any buffs only your self buffs tanker pvping ith buffs stinks i have a sk and know about it

Most of the fights are in open field full buffed en masse, so it doesn't really matter what who owns who in pvp, it matters who knows to play his class better. Tanks do things to tank, get healed, distract attention, mages fall behind and daggers go intercept.

hey guys what about the Dye's i mean for in oly and Pvp what would you take. ?
i found this topic very interesting and so. maybe there should be more topic's like this one even tho i wanned to know what dyes are good for PVP and oly.

Dwarfs hit bsoe :P:P:P

dwarves ftw actually ^^