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 Post subject: Re: Tank Killer
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:52 pm 
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mariosxx wrote:
LOL AND I'LL ASK YOU AGAIN.
How are you gonna get ALL THAT on 1 vs 1? XD
If we follow YOUR logic, nuker can get hero valor too, right? :P
Dont forget we dont all play L2gold such as urself lol...npc buffers etc...

And ok, lets say tank has all that crap...
And i have a SH... I'll slow and vortex and run till songs/dances end lol.
Oh i forgot, tank will have zerk and song of wind too right? to catch me :P

And fyi, surrender to wind REMOVES resist wind buff.

Lets say your scenario is on. FULL STACKED Tank.
Songs, dances, all resists, all critical buffs, cov etc.
THEN tank can kill a mage.

Anything other than that, tank cant do shit.

PS: SH with CH buffs + acu3 +Pow +malaria arcane on, has 4k+ m att and 1500 c speed + . And guess what? doesnt need multiple buffers/sws/bd like the tank with resists would need. And that's with AM acu +3 lol.

PS2: Just fyi, SH with +4 wit, dc set, wm2, pow and siren...
means needing only BD and EE, has 25% m crit rate. So clueless yet. :/

Do you see guys? Now he's trying to pull it off again. I repeat: you're the one who's playing 'what-if'. You started with magical crits, you started with every buff.

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TK cubics are useless too :P

Clueless.


Oh yeah... My friend marios:
If you make one more statement about l2gold i'll shut you down. I mean it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:28 pm 
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I did what? Weren't you the one who said bla bla resists bla bla brazil?
Want me to fuckin quote your posts?
You're the biggest retard i ever seen in an L2 forum lol.

And how come TK cubics are useful? since when?

And what about l2 Gold? I played that server a bit months ago..
Sucks balls, actually..

You should admit it that you're wrong lol.
And if you rly seen tanks killing nukers in L2 dex...then Dex nukers are failures.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:46 am 
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hmm i got my sk to 78 and it pawns mages asses gotta love magical mirror :D


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:00 am 
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I never said l2gold was the best server there is. I just said i played l2gold for a short time, i'm not connected to that server anymore.
Btw if you have played l2gold, tell me the price of a halisha.

Tk cubics? Heal + damage + root/aggress. You can't say they're useless. The healing cubic is good in a pve party. So is the attractive cubic. Saves you some good deal of mana.

Dex 'nukers'? Boy, you're one big asshole. It's the player, not the nuker. And players come in great varieties. And btw i am not wrong. Half of the people present in this topic counterargued you, and you still say i'm wrong. Grow up.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:06 am 
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Icarus wrote:
I never said l2gold was the best server there is. I just said i played l2gold for a short time, i'm not connected to that server anymore.
Btw if you have played l2gold, tell me the price of a halisha.

Tk cubics? Heal + damage + root/aggress. You can't say they're useless. The healing cubic is good in a pve party. So is the attractive cubic. Saves you some good deal of mana.

Dex 'nukers'? Boy, you're one big asshole. It's the player, not the nuker. And players come in great varieties. And btw i am not wrong. Half of the people present in this topic counterargued you, and you still say i'm wrong. Grow up.

How the hell would I know Halisha's price of w/e, I played 1 day just lol..
Tk cubics are PVE useful just. And the class itself aint good in pve either lol.

And what about if someone argues with me? He/she can't prove shit.
Why? Cuz if there's not BIG buff advantage, tanks can do shit.
On 2nd thought, even warsmith can kill nukers with buff advantage...
Why don't we make a topic, which class can kill warsmith? :p

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:15 pm 
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marius with evry post you prove that your an idiot
tanks are probably the best mage killer i have ever seen
them and the dagger
they got shield stun that lands 80% of the time
they got low dps but hey combined with the sield stun the mages doesnt stand a chance
the tk yeah it isnt that good but still its not as worse as you described it
the sk is 1 mega char
magic mirror poison and drian cubics not to mention a hex 1 :))
so he doesnt have to waste mana and cast time on his own hex
the pala is a natural necro killer or a drak using mage
the DA as his panther that combined with his shield stun is 100% a mage owning combo
like i said in the begining of the post your just proving that your and idiot
i have made mistakes on the forum but i decided to shut up instead of looking like a complete and total moron


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:37 pm 
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okay, im not so experianced player and i may be wrong, but i think..

try to pick a tank against a tank, if you will have the same vs the same, no one will have advantage (considering same equipment, buffs and luck).

as a mage......dunno what land rates are and what mage are you playing, but, as a necro, try this: gloom, weakness, chaos, abyss, warior bane, magical bane. I think this is not short line of debuffs, that can make something (and with banes removes some buffes like haste, ww...), and if he has full capacity of buffs, you will probably erase some by landing first curses too. ( i have no idea if it will stop him, but you can try it, just my idea ).

as sps, depends how many place you have got (if you are in arena, there is no way to run and kite), if he wont turn your frostbolt and icevortex back to you, you have great chance of winning.......if you are fulbuffed, you have casting good enough to keep him in distance, with frostbolt and ice vortex you can slow him from range 900, and he has maximum range of slow in range 600 ~ if you slow him and dont let him cast his own slow, you can kite him, but remember to have all speed increasing buffs on

as sph, well, dunno, your slow has range 600, only debuff you have is chaos.....maybe surrender to poisn and cast poisn, then say your prayers (joke, that will 100% not work), or maybe, arcane chaos + wind vortex = good manadrain (arcane chaos means draining mana and +33%mp cost for skills or so), maybe he can outrun of mana (you can do this as sps/sorc too, they got arcane chaos too and every vortex drain mana too)

as sorcerer, well, dunno too, same with slow as sph........but try cancel and that mana draining "combo" with arcane chaos and vortex.

and i think too, part of winning will depend on knowing each class, their strong and weak sides

i didnt say im right, i diddnt say it will work, i just post what i would try to do ~ even in L2, best learning is try/failure method right?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:04 pm 
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Just, saying tank will rape mage with *that* and *that* and *that* and *that* buff, since when you actually face the nuker you wont have em., is stupid.
When you say you'll have all that, I assume I could get ANY buffs myself as well.

BTW, resists are to gimp the overpowered mages, but dont forget mages (and archers) get best boosts than any class with buffs.

And anyway, saying tank can rape mages is plain dumb lmao.
Well, tank 'could' kill mage under some circumstances is correct.
But generally, tank won't do shit against nukers...
Theoretically, all those crappy debuffs seem useful, but thats not it at all.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:16 pm 
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mariosxx wrote:
Just, saying tank will rape mage with *that* and *that* and *that* and *that* buff, since when you actually face the nuker you wont have em., is stupid.
When you say you'll have all that, I assume I could get ANY buffs myself as well.

BTW, resists are to gimp the overpowered mages, but dont forget mages (and archers) get best boosts than any class with buffs.

And anyway, saying tank can rape mages is plain dumb lmao.
Well, tank 'could' kill mage under some circumstances is correct.
But generally, tank won't do shit against nukers...
Theoretically, all those crappy debuffs seem useful, but thats not it at all.

you haven't played as a tank, do you?.....


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:33 pm 
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marius i have seen tanks in b grade beating the crap out of mages and archers in s grade
even if you land debuffs on tanks that doesnt help you THAT much
they are tank
there roll is to take damage nothing else
and i suggest you stop your necro or mage worsheping and get some info on the tank classes


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:26 pm 
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mariosxx wrote:
Well, tank 'could' kill mage under some circumstances is correct.


Oh, we are doing some progress, aren't we?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:47 pm 
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BigDaddyO wrote:
you haven't played as a tank, do you?.....

Nope. Never died to a tank either...
And i play since c2 :<

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:00 pm 
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Meaning you haven't seen anything. And you question me, who's played sk for a long long time.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:24 pm 
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i've seen DA in oly with aoba and DC set killing everything


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WaZaWanGa wrote:
i've seen DA in oly with aoba and DC set killing everything
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