When I say Power 54x5 mobs = 270 POWER...

Im sayng that each mob received a Power of 54... no taht each mob received 270

LaWl you noooooo00000000()()()()()bs
Sorcerers are well balanced,they dont have lots of c.speed but they got nice damage output and CP/HP,yeah they suck in these chronicles,but remember that chronicles change and new skills,weapons,robes are added who knows maybe the kamael will rule us all or only the sorceror will have a chance at them...cxaxaxaxa



Personal speculations for some fun [/b]

I BELIEVE IT!!!!

^^

I killed once a storm screamer with dc robe in a surprise attack with my lvl 60 TH, that dont means the TH are stronger than howler... Theres people who know all of characters skill and abilities and explore then wisely (pro), and theres people that get 3rd class that dont even know what means "tanker" (noobies)
One more thing, L2 are not 1x1... Just like begentleman told, anything can happen


Man i understand that you are trying to defend your class, i made it too with my glad on C4 (when he were a trash) and finally changed my class, playing my hawkeye i thought "man being a glad sux hard!!"

Get in a pvp server and try out the other nukers and you'll see what im talking about

Yeap.. surelly im deffending my class... but I never sayd taht archmage/sorcerer are best class of server... and I think that don't exist better class. I try show the positive side of my class... not only because I play with it... because I ever when do a account in server I create a lots of chars... and I played with almost all class already... Im sayng by what I think... not only for love

About the RBP... I still with my opinion xD
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Not for be blind or something... I understood what you've told, I just think in another point...

Im sayng in how much mobs you hit with skill... if you hit more than 2 mobs with an AoE skill you will already be using less MP in amount of damage...

If have just 1 member in party using de AoE skill surelly will be horrible... the damage that he cause is too low for did anything to RF or RB... but im supposing a party of nukers using AoE skills (prefference for sorcerer because of Blazing circle and Rain Of Fire how I told in another topic).

I'll tell.... I never tested, because is hard you make an RBP with 5 or more sorcerers! But see Prominence will do 500-600 damage how you sayd... and rain of fire will surelly do 300 or less (blazing circle must br around 380 - 400)...

Ill try create a simulation... by number of skills:
4 Raid Fighters... (lets ignore the RB in that)

Strategy: Blazing Circle / Rain of Fire (5 Sorcerer in the party), the HP of Raid Fighter is 10 000

1 turn will be Blazing Circle (for 5 sorcerers) = 1900 damage (each sorcerer atacked, and each did 380 damage)

Another turn will be Rain of Fire (for 5 sorcerer) = 1500 damage (each sorcerer atacked, and each did 300 damage)

Another turn BC

Anotehr turn RoF and keep going...

HP RF1 / RF2 / RF3 / RF4 5 sorcerer atack dmg
--------10000/10000/10000/10000
1Turn 8100 / 8100 / 8100 / 8100 --- BC 1900 dmg
2Turn 6600 / 6600 / 6600 / 6600 --- RoF 1500 dmg
3Turn 4700 / 4700 / 4700 / 4700 --- BC 1900 dmg
4Turn 3200 / 3200 / 3200 / 3200 --- RoF 1500 dmg
5turn 1300 / 1300 / 1300 / 1300 --- BC 1900 dmg
6Turn -200 / -200 / -200 / -200 --- RoF 1500 dmg

In the 6th turn magic all RF died

Now lets test same RF but with the main nuke nuke prominence doing 600 damage... 600 damage for 5 sorcerer = 3000 damage by turn

HP RF1 / RF2 / RF3 / RF4 5 sorcerer atack dmg
-------10000/10000/10000/10000
1Turn 7000 /10000/10000/10000
2Turn 4000 /10000/10000/10000
3Turn 1000 /10000/10000/10000
4Turn -200 / 8200 /10000/10000 (2 nukers kill RF 1 and 3 atack RF2)
5turn -200 / 5200/10000/10000
6Turn -200 / 2200/10000/10000
7Turn -200 / -200/ 9400 /10000 (4 nukers kill RF2 and 1 atack RF3)
8Turn -200 / -200/ 6400 /10000
9Turn -200 / -200/ 3400 /10000
10Turn-200 / -200/ 400 /10000
11Turn -200 / -200/ -200 /7600 (1 nuker kill RF3 and 4 atack RF4)
12Turn -200 / -200/ -200 /3600
13Turn -200 / -200/ -200 / 600
14Turn -200 / -200/ -200 / -0 (1 nuker kill RF4 and others start to kill RB)

See what am I sayng? supposing that AoE skill do less damage, and supossing tha nuke do more... the AoE dont will take more than 8 turns... and the main nuke dont will take less than 11 turns

And nukers dont need change target... is just target RB and keep using AoE skill!!

Now... to kill these Raid Fighters in 14 turns you used 14 prominences.. so each prominence take 69 MP... 69 x 14 = 966 MP

Now... to kill these RF in 6 turns we used 3 RoF 69 MP and 3 BC that use 103 MP...

3 x 69 = 207
3 x 103 = 309
207 + 309 = 516 MP consumed for each sorcerer

And when start to nuke RB he will be 10k less HP



Am I wrong?
For me have lots of logic... with taht you economize MP... and kill faster!

Problem: Healler will need use a little more in heal for tank in the first 3 turns... from that point will be the same thing the HP problem of tank...

I showed in fact...

Lol, how did you get these numbers? fantasy? your AoE skills are only good for train parties where a warlord keeps the agro on him and you AoE blast them,or to solo exp on green-blue mobs, in RB AoE? sinece C5 RBs and RFs got more m.def,in RBs mages use CDL and if they dont have they use their primary attack skill and the entire mage party target one RF at the time killing it in less that 10 seconds,after the RFs are gone they all attack the RB at it dies in 1 minute.You must have at least 7 RFs in order to get some benefit from crappy AoE skills,

In logic must be proportional with main nuke (surelly if magic skills get failed in RB will have difference...)

I used the numbers of BeAGentleman...

How I've sayd... I don't tested already cuz I dont did a party with sufficient sorcerers... but I hope test someday...

I'll do a RBP test another day in the server for look

My numbers are correct if the AoE skill did in RB half than main nuke taht is the logic... Im not online now... if any nuker (SH / Sps / Sorc) do a RBP... and can help testing... just use a nuke: Hurricane / Hydro Blast / Prominence... and after that use an AoE: Tempest / Aqua Splash / Rain of Fire...

The test is just if AoE do half of damage of main nuke... if do much less than half so in RBP this really don't works...
If are half tahn damage so it works well

About CDL this possible can change a little the things too... but I still thinking that witha party giving CDL dont will take less than 9 turns of magic (I THINK)

This is the sufficient.. after taht just main nuke for dont do bad things with the RBP xD

I can't login now on the server... but if someone wanna help me on the test ill be gratefull...


About Train Party... in logic that works so xD

damn lol fuck what are u saying bro?? in which server u play?? till c4 rb and rf had high p def and m def in c5 mdef and pdef got low and increased the hp and attack of rb

Can you tell me what armor is better for my sorc in pvp(interlude) ... major arcana or dark crystal??
Major arcana gives m.atk , stun rezistance, and casting cancel probability -50% and +1 wit +1 int and dc gives +2 wit and 15% cast speed and i really don't know which is better.

OMG maybe the necro after the 10 ppl he kill before u have no HP and CP?SS can't win agains a NHEcro in PvP if the necro have summon!SS have only one chance and that is only on high rate servers if it is too close to the necro and spam with promiance and aura=decast the necro in mid and long range necro will nuke the SS!!!

necro:
-transfer pain
-mass warrior/mage bane
-gloom
-curse of abyss
-silence/curse of doom
-dark vortex
-death spike
-vampiric
-deathspike

just the best nuker for pvp

Necro is a good char with many curses and powerful skills.But there are many de-buffs for dark attack and that makes necro really sucks. I think that SPH is the best nuker with curses and powerful skill.He is like necro without pet (better than necro).
Sorcerer is a char with the most powerful vortex.He is good at pvp, pve and you are going to beat many with him in high lvl.

1:cancel
2:surrunder to fire
3:Prominence
4:Prominence
5:Prominence

:)

Sorc is quite good in pvp. For example in pvp coloseum self buff+ gr magic haste pot, my sorc can beat a necro/sph without hiting me, just spam proeminence+blaze+proeminence+blaze etc... and they will have they're skills canceled, that works for me. And in full buff, cancellation does the work.

lolsorc...