wow, icarus, that's a nice idea . 6 daggers next to anybody = miliseconds to live >:). imagine the chances to get critical x6. Even if they are TH ( hm, maybe TH is better coz of dash = right next to ur vicitm) the sum of all crits is pretty big.

but let me trow in another idea, just for fun. What if u have let's say 5-6 tyrants in that party? hm, even a sps will get fooking interupted. Just for the sake of experimentation. 5 skilled Tyrants . What do u say to that Icarus? or 5 gladis :-". But i'm more curious about the tyrants .

A party of crafters with their summons xD

Dahaha with tyrants on 30% hp the whole enemy party won't be able to move. If they all focus on one target, they're interrupting anything and they'll be burning hp like gas.

yes icarus, nice idea. I love daggers, and if one is a pain in the ass, even for hvy armor classes, imagine 6 daggers + 2 semi-tankers, also hiting. That would be a pretty awesome killing, assuming that one dagger can crit 5/6k with backstab to a mage...thats 2 seconds until all the mages are owned

BUT

why are we are assuming that u will face a mage party? In ur server everyone plays nuker?

so...even vs. a DD party, the daggers would do a nice and clean job, but the healer would have to work harder, maybe getting killed, but i think the rest of the party would be fine: BD and SWS agro everyone and /UD while the daggers do what they do best. besides, they would be fine with CP pots against damaged enemies, and probably half the party would already be dead when they killed healer.

the tyrants...i think they would also do a nice job. If they were close to the enemy, that is. Ofc that by 30% HP they would hit zealot and everything was over, till then the healer would also have lots of work.
Also, vs DD party, the tyrants would have to spend lots of MP to make decent damage (the dagger too, but they deal more damage)


But anyway, at the end of the fight u would have to res maybe 1 or 2 party members, u say GF, u soe and u have some PVP points added

yes! fortress with UD and DASH! wtf?! so imba:D

Vs nuker party it's the ultimate massacre imo. Mages are normally built for pvp, they usually can't handle large masses, even if their number is the same. Maybe the necro, with his mass slow... But it has a low land rate so it will probably land on 1-2 out of 6 daggers.

Against ur party of daggers, Icarus, i will bring my party of OLs Ur buff slots will be full of curses maybe they dont have the swift killing power but they compensate in resistance, endurance and expert tactics. the hole idea of fighting with an OL is to stay away from him, not to close in that nasty seal range, most of all if they're high lvl dominators. if those 5-6 OLs form a close network betwen them, chose each a certain role, and are organized... Ur daggers will get a good headake. Even if they dont necessarily win, the 6 AWs wont want to enchounter them again.

Don't get me wrong, i love AWs and i consider him best dagger.

im not questioning or criticizing mages. Im just saying that all of you were talking about "6 daggers vs mages". Ofc this would happen, but im just imagining different scenarios, because I can guarantee you that if u sail for some pvp action, you will fight other classes besides mages. In C6, ppl understood that mages werent that good anymore, so they started to make destros and archers. IMO, the daggers are good for any enemy, but u cant assume that you will face a bunch of mages and that everything will end in 1 second

I'd go three ways(nuker/fighter melee/ranged):
Nukers:
1.Overlord
2.Magnus
3.Siren
4.Renewal
5.Pink Pony
6.Cardinal
7.Necro
8.Necro/SH
9.Necro/SH

Fighters Ranged: (Dream Gank Party)
1.CoV with DB
2.Cardinal
3.SD with DB
4.SWM with DB
5.Arcana Lord
6.-7.-8.-9. Archers(DB of course)

Fighters Melee:
1.-5. same classes
6.-7. Daggers
8.-9. Titans/GKs

Yeah, a pt of ols or a party of destroes haha.

@razveck: Of course not. But it will probably end quicker than anything else.

COV-er
DOMINATOR to sleep or silence enemyes and other curses
bishop for heal
7 nukers or archers for dd

Well, icarus, probably a Shilen Saint will make ur AWs even more deadlier ... PoWind rules!!!

that's 10 in a party :/

well the best pt for me is 1 OL 1 pally 1 BD 1 SwS 1 bish and 4 daggers

OL= mass debuffs
Pally= healer/tanker aggression etc...
BD/SwS= you know....
Bish=Trances and heals :F
4 daggers or any LETHAL D.D.

Lethal? You play those 13241023x servers where th lethal rate is 1/3? Lethals are extremely rare on players.