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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:20 pm 
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All the 79 summons have similar stats. All summons have low pdef, yes. But 79 summons aren't that low on hp. 4.5k unbuffed. He ain't gonna crit that much, he may crit 2k, but at that lvl, the summon is usually over 3/4 hp under the master's supervision, because his heals won't be that effective on percentage hp.


my soulles from 76 lvl have on self buff 2,4 k patack 6,1 k hp and i dont remember exaclu but about 800 p def and 700 m def he is not so weak i dont have summon from 79 but he must be better than this

its a bit different there. for example on the same mobs duelsit with 1300 p atk will deal more dmg than your summon ;).

And yes soulblade - duelist has sonic barrier, which lasts for 15 seconds, but you can move while its turned on.


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how much can a summon dmg a glad ????
lets say max 1k per crit or maybe 1,5k
the glad is a walking fortress man plus he has an ud that can move :))
so he is kinda hard to kill he will just shoot you to death with his ranged skills
then kill the summon
Gladi has UD? O_o
multiskill server playing or..?
only knight classes have UD ( TK/SWS/BD/SK/DA/PA )
gladi is a warrior...

sonic barrier is like an ud dude
that is want i wanted to say


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Sekkurel wrote:
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Sekkurel wrote:
how much can a summon dmg a glad ????
lets say max 1k per crit or maybe 1,5k
the glad is a walking fortress man plus he has an ud that can move :))
so he is kinda hard to kill he will just shoot you to death with his ranged skills
then kill the summon
Gladi has UD? O_o
multiskill server playing or..?
only knight classes have UD ( TK/SWS/BD/SK/DA/PA )
gladi is a warrior...

sonic barrier is like an ud dude
that is want i wanted to say


Well, it aint like an UD gee. The barrier lasts for 10 sec but it uses 5 of your c harges so you normaly need like 4 sec to recharge them back and at that point you only have 6 sec of it left, but it still very usefull.


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SirAgrus wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
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Sekkurel wrote:
how much can a summon dmg a glad ????
lets say max 1k per crit or maybe 1,5k
the glad is a walking fortress man plus he has an ud that can move :))
so he is kinda hard to kill he will just shoot you to death with his ranged skills
then kill the summon
Gladi has UD? O_o
multiskill server playing or..?
only knight classes have UD ( TK/SWS/BD/SK/DA/PA )
gladi is a warrior...

sonic barrier is like an ud dude
that is want i wanted to say


Well, it aint like an UD gee. The barrier lasts for 10 sec but it uses 5 of your c harges so you normaly need like 4 sec to recharge them back and at that point you only have 6 sec of it left, but it still very usefull.


thats if you dont lag even for a split sec :P

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Well you do barrier and think: do your last victim or make a break for it? I usually go for the first choice. :D

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SirAgrus wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
SoulBlade wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
how much can a summon dmg a glad ????
lets say max 1k per crit or maybe 1,5k
the glad is a walking fortress man plus he has an ud that can move :))
so he is kinda hard to kill he will just shoot you to death with his ranged skills
then kill the summon
Gladi has UD? O_o
multiskill server playing or..?
only knight classes have UD ( TK/SWS/BD/SK/DA/PA )
gladi is a warrior...

sonic barrier is like an ud dude
that is want i wanted to say


Well, it aint like an UD gee. The barrier lasts for 10 sec but it uses 5 of your c harges so you normaly need like 4 sec to recharge them back and at that point you only have 6 sec of it left, but it still very usefull.


I think it lasts for 15 seconds


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No matter what type of sumoner u have..when u fight against glads/destros NERVER go near then.Try 2 stay at a resonable distance from him.U don`t need 2 hit him whis melee weapon 2 activate the cubics.Just spam wind sackle or any other low lvl skills.U whont do any damage but cubics will activate.As armor agains DD i use bw light set +6.Never use night shade for pvp dude...against a glad/destro dual swords count for nothing.U do shity dmg 2 them.Use a acumen weapon for debufs/heal.Keeping u and ur summon alive makes the diference.Just run around and heal ur servitor and urself.
As armor sets: i use bw light +6 agains any DD melee or ranged and dc robe for pvp agains mages and pve.True i am a elemental sumoner not a phantom sumoner but i strongly thing the pvp style doesn`t differ that much.


P.s. My english sucks i know :roll:


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Icarus wrote:
That's the point. Never concentrate too much on pve. For example, the pve for me is indeed very concentration demanding, but i look around me once a few seconds, if you master that you won't be able to leave it out of your hand.


+1 im doing same all the time and + i love attacking another people:D so pve is <pvp sometimes in places like catacomb or populated places


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i seen loads of PS kill gladi in seconds. just hit hit hit with sumon and heal the summon (and run from the gladi if he comes after u )


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Hi, i`m new on this forum but i wanted to saysomething coz i`m playing as duelist on a 12x server (IL) and i made lots of pvp`s with summoners.
The PS and EM .. just they don`t have what to go to me.. i jump on them too fast too hard dealing damage only to the player (only if i see the summon with low hp i hit it) to put preasure on him and don`t leave him time to heal the summon properly. When i`m fighting with an arcana lord.. there things begin to get a lil more dangerous (biggest con of them all + warrior bane + anchor cubic). btw equip is super important .. any summoner should have at least bw light set +6.
sory if i spawned a lil and sory for bad english :D


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TwisterRoar wrote:
i seen loads of PS kill gladi in seconds. just hit hit hit with sumon and heal the summon (and run from the gladi if he comes after u )

you cant escape from the gladiator ;) unless you don't want to heal your summon


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paladinick wrote:
Hi, i`m new on this forum but i wanted to saysomething coz i`m playing as duelist on a 12x server (IL) and i made lots of pvp`s with summoners.
The PS and EM .. just they don`t have what to go to me.. i jump on them too fast too hard dealing damage only to the player (only if i see the summon with low hp i hit it) to put preasure on him and don`t leave him time to heal the summon properly. When i`m fighting with an arcana lord.. there things begin to get a lil more dangerous (biggest con of them all + warrior bane + anchor cubic). btw equip is super important .. any summoner should have at least bw light set +6.
sory if i spawned a lil and sory for bad english :D


i kill some pf glads put empowerment on summon drain heal from distance in pvp arena or if i'm close hit witch soulles when glad lose his mana then things are diferent he dont make such a good damage witch normal hitting and i can heal summon normaly and in PS when Stun work :P than +bonus time for save nukking galad and wind schackle and phantom cubic :P work is easy but fist need to know tactick :) in kamael i can enchant summon what is great:) and really to playing summoner make very big fun and satisfaction when i win couse its hard to play and u have to think how to play couse in glad hehe sonic, sonic, sonic, nuke nuke nuek or tank stun hit stun hit :P archer stun hit run, stun hit run, witch some mage are nice game but the best for tactic fight are summoners first take good summon, or even like me witch PS when oponent get stun i can summon another summon really i love summoners i want to know everyo of them better. bb and peace.

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I really can't understand where is his mana ?


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I really can't understand where is his mana ?

whos mana duelist ? i was talking about puting empowerment on nightshade for example and keep running around and for distance glad will atack PS witch his sonic shot and nightshade can preety good heal and i'm healing myself and waiting till glad will waste all his mana and than
i'm waiting for stun than i'm sending nightshade for nuke glad and in the same time i summon Soulles or Silhouetter and always i can summon new summon while glad is stuned and then unsumon nightshade and fast buff for new summon and nuke nuke glad :P preety good tactic for me :) this is how i kill some glads but the way to win is so many :) only a lil bit invention and luck

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OK, what will happen when your nightshade has half of its hp left. One TSS and it will die :)


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