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ohh lol sry, i meant platinum

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Now basicly all am asking: can a tank with a passive heal augumentation(when u hit an enemy u get a heal from time to time) be defeated? I mean 1 on 1... Because I am playing for TK lvl 70, and I manage to get that skill into my +4 DLE. I have been fighting different classes, from paladins to tyrants, and I always end a fight with 50% or more hp. I know that a heal cubic helps a lot, but still he doesn't heal me so rapidly. So the question is: which class can defeat me if I get +700 hp after every 15-20 hits?

Imo your oponnents suck especially that tyrant.Now to answer your question best tanker killers are tyrants then titans,berserkers,and i thing that a good played dagger or soulhound can give u a tough time.How were the pvp's btw fullbuff pp buff or selfbuff?


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Since when is a berserk a tanker killer? He has no stun resistance, so I just use shield bash all the time... A tyrant can be a pain in the ass, but I resist most of his stuns and I heal up pretty fast. A dagger can't kill a tank, well unless he is lucky and delivers a lethal strike. A soulhound can be annoying, but he also has no stun resistance... And a destro? They are not so tough... I usually run from them and give them a rain of arrows. Ou and about the pvp's, some of them were on self-buff(most of them) and some were played with buffs(all kinds, the rules of my server allow twinks, so some people run around with a wc, bd, sws, ee at the same time, but I myself settle for some decent pp buffs)


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Since when is a berserk a tanker killer? He has no stun resistance, so I just use shield bash all the time... A tyrant can be a pain in the ass, but I resist most of his stuns and I heal up pretty fast. A dagger can't kill a tank, well unless he is lucky and delivers a lethal strike. A soulhound can be annoying, but he also has no stun resistance... And a destro? They are not so tough... I usually run from them and give them a rain of arrows. Ou and about the pvp's, some of them were on self-buff(most of them) and some were played with buffs(all kinds, the rules of my server allow twinks, so some people run around with a wc, bd, sws, ee at the same time, but I myself settle for some decent pp buffs)


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tyrants are strong opponents for tanks, but since you have that wtf heal ability with that augment, i think tyrants are doomed too. Daggers stand no chance, soulhounds...... dunno, on most servers are bugged. Anyway, they build their damage on dark attribute. Say hello to holy armor. They do not have uber m atack, and TK has strong m def -> try to land something, wish good luck. Also, they do not have any skill that ignore shield defence afaik, so i think it cannot manage to kill TK aswell. Bersekers.... dunno, heard they are pretty though, but if you interrupt his crushing pain and resist bleed rush (or dispell), he has no serious damage output at all for some time. Destro may be problem, but as you said, you may kite them. And if you are lucky enough, you can interrupt his frenzy aswell. Anyway, if destro goes on frenzy, you may root him and hit UD. With your superior shield def and ability to interrupt doom crush and such a shit with bash, i think he will hit the dust too.


seriously, i think only mages can take you down.

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rofl haha go see if AW/PW with skills ~+10 and full epic jewels can kill imba geared tank

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Sry for ninja'ing the topic, but imo anything in a cata using a pole with this aug would rock the sh1t out of mobs. <3 WL

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Since when is a berserk a tanker killer? He has no stun resistance, so I just use shield bash all the time... A tyrant can be a pain in the ass, but I resist most of his stuns and I heal up pretty fast. A dagger can't kill a tank, well unless he is lucky and delivers a lethal strike. A soulhound can be annoying, but he also has no stun resistance... And a destro? They are not so tough... I usually run from them and give them a rain of arrows. Ou and about the pvp's, some of them were on self-buff(most of them) and some were played with buffs(all kinds, the rules of my server allow twinks, so some people run around with a wc, bd, sws, ee at the same time, but I myself settle for some decent pp buffs)

Berserker is a tank killer with proper buffs disarm and violent temper will let him hit u hard while u do nothing.Not mentioning shoulder charge or his other charges.If he is smart he will play with charges and a disarm=>violent temper=>crushing pain combo that will give u an one way ticket to town,daggers as u said only if they are lucky with a half kill and for soulhounds it's preety easy steal divinity root nuke nuke if shit hits the fan press painkiller then again steal divinity i guarantee u'll be walking without buffs really fast.And yea with selfbuff pvp elven fighters rock


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jajaja just wait till nc nerfs kamaels
i will see so much QQing in future
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jajaja just wait till nc nerfs kamaels
i will see so much QQing in future

i don't think they deserve a nerf after all they are hard as fuk to play and yea sure they have a couple of overpowered skills but i'm telling u they deserve those to the fullest to be competitive in pvp.For example u take the berserker take his rushes and disarm and what do u get... nothing a kinda fast destro with shit ass long reuse on skills (lame).If u take steal divinity from soulhounds u get a half dagger/mage stun magnet with little if no chances in pvp.And after the lethal whatever nerf i think soulhounds are the only way u can compete with high overenchanted weapons ++ armors and RB jewelery (don't have enough time to play and get those :cry: )


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jajaja just wait till nc nerfs kamaels
i will see so much QQing in future

i don't think they deserve a nerf after all they are hard as fuk to play and yea sure they have a couple of overpowered skills but i'm telling u they deserve those to the fullest to be competitive in pvp.For example u take the berserker take his rushes and disarm and what do u get... nothing a kinda fast destro with shit ass long reuse on skills (lame).If u take steal divinity from soulhounds u get a half dagger/mage stun magnet with little if no chances in pvp.And after the lethal whatever nerf i think soulhounds are the only way u can compete with high overenchanted weapons ++ armors and RB jewelery (don't have enough time to play and get those :cry: )


yeah sure
berserker just spams his skills in oly and every mage dies
kinda fair isnt it?

enchant aura flash + stun.. if u land stun... gf

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Well, disarm can leave me withought a weapon for like 5 second, but I still have a shield and I can use shield bash. With almost no CON and light armor a berserk will just stand then while the disarm wears off on me. My friend plays for a berserk(pretty well I should say) and I just root him to the ground(or my cubic) run away(far enough, so he cannot hit me in melee, and not far enough so he can use rush, shoulder charge and such) an take out my bow. Sure he has a good buff against damage inflicted by bows, but I got to make do with what I got. Btw about stun resistance, on a interlude pvp servers shield bash worked fine against tyrants, but everyone had full rb jewelry +25(except me, I wasn't lucky/)


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EUPHORIA wrote:
jajaja just wait till nc nerfs kamaels
i will see so much QQing in future

i don't think they deserve a nerf after all they are hard as fuk to play and yea sure they have a couple of overpowered skills but i'm telling u they deserve those to the fullest to be competitive in pvp.For example u take the berserker take his rushes and disarm and what do u get... nothing a kinda fast destro with shit ass long reuse on skills (lame).If u take steal divinity from soulhounds u get a half dagger/mage stun magnet with little if no chances in pvp.And after the lethal whatever nerf i think soulhounds are the only way u can compete with high overenchanted weapons ++ armors and RB jewelery (don't have enough time to play and get those :cry: )


yeah sure
berserker just spams his skills in oly and every mage dies
kinda fair isnt it?

enchant aura flash + stun.. if u land stun... gf
cuz the zerker has no grade jwls right?


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cuz zerkers skills mostly ignore shield def?(as i remember)
cuz zerker has great debuffing potential
cuz zerker still has strike back so imagine if ur tribunal comes back to u >.<
as a zerker i smacked easly SKs and even PAs
still it depends on the gear and playstyle
seen some omgwtfberserkers just spamming rushes and disarms
they dont even go for close range combat >.<
if we add mj set,epics,resist shock
u would have hard time
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also dont forget that berserks can wear jewels 2(kata is right here....like the zerker wont have decent jewels,basic mental shield buff for example,etc etc)


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Kata wrote:
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EUPHORIA wrote:
jajaja just wait till nc nerfs kamaels
i will see so much QQing in future

i don't think they deserve a nerf after all they are hard as fuk to play and yea sure they have a couple of overpowered skills but i'm telling u they deserve those to the fullest to be competitive in pvp.For example u take the berserker take his rushes and disarm and what do u get... nothing a kinda fast destro with shit ass long reuse on skills (lame).If u take steal divinity from soulhounds u get a half dagger/mage stun magnet with little if no chances in pvp.And after the lethal whatever nerf i think soulhounds are the only way u can compete with high overenchanted weapons ++ armors and RB jewelery (don't have enough time to play and get those :cry: )


yeah sure
berserker just spams his skills in oly and every mage dies
kinda fair isnt it?

enchant aura flash + stun.. if u land stun... gf
cuz the zerker has no grade jwls right?
i didn't say that nuker has 100% chance to win vs berserk..

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nuker has ~1% chance to kill a zerker


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