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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:14 pm 
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thats possible too.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:17 pm 
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I think we should talk about SK and Ty not dagger and Tyrant.

So SK can beat Destro, that means it can land debuffs to tyrant too.
It has also strong Pdef and it can block some skills of the Tyrant, but it is not the best DD. Judgement also do its job, it nicely reduces critical damage. If arrest land u can beautifully drain the tyrant. Even if Tyron shoots u with the Forcebuster, u can block it or u can drain back your hp. If lightning strike lands, u are a very good position. If Tyrant goes to Bison u MUST use judgement to decrease crit damage. The thing that u must be really afraid of is Soul Breaker, which stuns u, which is bad 4 u.
So i think SK can win vs Tyrant.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:51 pm 
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man if u are pro with daggers u hav 50% chances with a TH to kill TY in fullbuffs....prove to us that u are a pro player and pick a weak class to kill a strong class like TY/Glad

Lol. Okay, I'll take a lvl 1 kamael fighter.

Give me a weapon with lesser celestial shield active and it's okay with me.
The tyrant was meant exactly for pvp. Exactly like the dagger gets his ass blown by a tyrant in pvp, a tyrant gets his ass blown by a dagger in free for all.




Th in fullbuffs? Look, you're one of those guys that say th in full buffs is an incredible char? I played all three daggers and full buffed, the th takes the advantage because he relies on those 10 seconds to kill his target, but lol... Don't overreact. What's so special about the full buffed th? Tell me, I'm really curious because this 'uber' boost seems to be slipping from me.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:03 pm 
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I think some skilled players on dagger class can own tyrant
There is no point talking about it...every class has Strong points and Weak
Soo a dagger can kill a tyrant
U know the ticatic...switch bluff trick etc..Dash and UE...and why not bow?
Slow ...then switch to bow....i dont know..i want to reach a point...i dont know the server u r playing to....but equipment is an important factor!

P.S. Tyrants r 1mb@ too with their totems!...and A their stuff :P :P

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:38 pm 
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a full buffed tyrant is extremly hard to beat even for a full buffed glad
a full buffed dagger is worthless if it isnt wielded by a pro player same goes for the tyrant
vs th my only advice is hit him when his switch/trick is in reuse let him take away your target then retarget and bam use skill :) or hit :P
anyway if you manage to get the tyrant in 30 % hp and your close to him you better run or bsoe cause theres no chance for you :P

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:03 pm 
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i chose sk and ty czo they are the most versatile classes in the game imo. and the ones who know how to halde them and optain the best are icarus( De specialist) and paagrio( orc specialist).

in sone way i belive this fight is how better u know ur class and 2 what lvls u can take it.

i love tyrants and i belive the ty will win, but sk are my second love so the imposing stature of the tyrant is a bith shaky... i bet icarus can pull a good one

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i bet icarus can pull a good one

Yeah, I'll ask for mage buffs and I'll mcrit lightening strike. :>


BUT now that I consider the newer skills... (I always seem to forget skills newer than interlude) My chances aren't that slim. Remember touch of shilen. A few buffs will be off, along with most of his cp. And what does he rely on once his mana will be gone? (really, it's inevitable vs a tank) On melee non-skill attacks. Pain of shilen anyone? Remember that it increases patk by a fixed amount when I get attacked. THAT MEANS the non-skill tyrant is the most disadvantaged.

And I have another trick inside my sleeve. Remember... Sk has GREAT damage over time capability. Sting. Does good damage over time. And last but not least viper cubic, and we all know how powerful is the single uncurable poison in this game. When I hid ud, I will make sure you have'em on. They will eat you for good.

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Icarus wrote:
redpill wrote:
i bet icarus can pull a good one

Yeah, I'll ask for mage buffs and I'll mcrit lightening strike. :>


BUT now that I consider the newer skills... (I always seem to forget skills newer than interlude) My chances aren't that slim. Remember touch of shilen. A few buffs will be off, along with most of his cp. And what does he rely on once his mana will be gone? (really, it's inevitable vs a tank) On melee non-skill attacks. Pain of shilen anyone? Remember that it increases patk by a fixed amount when I get attacked. THAT MEANS the non-skill tyrant is the most disadvantaged.

not if you have a nice change aug :)
or crit stun fists
you said in another topic that SA crit stun isnt influenced by con or other stun resist stuff ( or i think it was you ) so lets see focus fists + full buff + zealot + bison at 30 % + tyrant close to you hmmm can you say permastun ??? :)

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Focus fists from where? He needs crt stun fists to do this trick.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:25 pm 
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oh yeah my bad :P
also i would like to ad that only with ch buffs your crit rate in bison 30 % hp is 450 + ( not past 460 ) just dd hunter to this and you will prolly reach max crit rate also if you have drac set and + dex dyes you will surly have that crit rate

and do not forget that i can still refelct that lighning strike with my ripost stance and i also have fortitude ( para resist ) and not to mention the orc uber resistences to all things ( though bastards )

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burning fist prolly the perfect skill to deal with your imba shield def xD

but lets look it from the sks point of view
you have poison spark ( doesnt this 1 remove debuffs ??? ) drain and hex cubics
also hex pb freezing strike sting 2 drains lighting strike and very good defensive capabilities if you actually manage to land the debuffs ( if not reflected to you ) you will have a very good chance to win
theres always the strategy of using tod then shackle and ud near him and start hitting

but the most important thing is YOUR EQUIPS !!!! ( exclude epics plz )
plz tell me your gear to actually know the outcome of the fight ( also no augmentation chance/passive/active skills )

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i think that shackle is not the way, cause tyrant can break any slow/immobile effect. Also, he has a shield too (that force barier - dunno how long it will hold, but it should be same as with gladi - around 15 secs).


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:36 pm 
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my epics on tyrant.

I'd like to see some epic fights between the beloved classes of our members :D

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I'd say s-grade both, no epics.

Why don't you add self buffs? :>

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Icarus wrote:
I'd say s-grade both, no epics.

Why don't you add self buffs? :>

ch buffs
so both have same buffs same gear ( s grade ) same lvl :)

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razveck wrote:
my epics on tyrant.

I'd like to see some epic fights between the beloved classes of our members :D


what chronicle?

ill fight with supporter classes like se,bish,ee,pp,wc,ol
or even bd and sws


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