Better song Wind and have COV because of it's Defs raise. For Archer Powi is good for nerving parties with hit'n'run tactic but in mass he doesn't need so much speed. I always used to have COV in Pvp's where there was sure, that I won't run so much (e.g. not for ganging, where speed is needed)

Sws will only sing wind when your party needs to flee, if there is a bd in the party. But u are right! You don't need speed that much at sieges, so as I said b4 COV > POWi.

Archers need speed too, or they will be picked off by enemies in case of fleeing. Daggers need speed like air.

For Daggers best is Powi, no doubt, but Pvp parties on mass have mostly WC in party, it's harder to gain Powi.

here i have to disagree with you
powi is good only for daggers and not so good for archers
why ???
simple
because people that have a brain wont kite moving backwards ( which i think its the dumbest move ever ) they will move sideways which will make the 30 % bonus dmg from behind unusable
also if its party vs party or siege pvp you wont need to kite just assist and shoot you wont fire more then 3 arrows on a target if all play with assist so kiting goes out the window
in 1 vs 1 still cov/pof rulz for archers they dont need the speed to kill some1 considering they have a lot of range and will have pretty good pdef/hp with cov/pof so kitting again goes out the window

Agree. You've just put my thoughts to 0 and 1.

ye powi sux during mass pvp like siege i agree with sekku

I never said I'd get powi for damage dealing, mark my words. But in case of a flee, you are dead. If it's a sagi, okay, you have dash to run when stuff hit the fan, but if you're a pr or sr? You're dead.

But actually you're right because since gracia we can pick off buffs, so if I feel myself behind the pack, I'd take it off.
I'd still go for powi in <gracia tho. It's my playstyle. And btw, you can also make use of powi in a mass pvp. People sometimes run, you know. You know how I feel when I'm in deadeye and I see a nuker running away? Undivine pleasure of crit, 5k dmg.

yeah you and another 5 archers will have the same pleasure so the nuker is dead anyway )
in sieges if you have a well organized party that knows to play with assist kiting = 0 same goes for defending team archers will mostly be on the walls sniping everything with a wartag on it so again kitting goes out the window and with kitting goes the necessity for speed buffs ( dash i mean )

with cov u hav best defense( m.def p.def) and more critical power,more hp...using powi on archers is like using nightmare light,just lol...

Since CoV gives same crit damage as PoWi, there's no reason to get PoWi.
You'll do even more dmg with CoV cuz of p att.

You'd rather have +30 speed and +4 eva than + pdef/mdef/hp/p att?
No you wouldn't. You can just remove CoV if u wanna escape anyway.
PoWi is for daggers, for open PvP like siege. In pvp in places like cata or smth... CoV is better even for daggers cuz u wont have to chase.

but what if you the 1 being chased ??? you need speed as a dagger no matter the place your in so powi all the way xD

You always need speed. In cata or other such places, u'd rather have p def and m def than just speed cuz u will simply not run a lot.
And where would you run to begin with? In the mobs?
PS: if you need to run badly, you can always use dash as Th or BB as pw/aw.

Marios, a dagger goes for powi even in a cata. Actually I'm not surprised that you'd go for cov. You wanna turn the dagger into a tank or what?

In a cata, the dagger uses the environment to hide. When you see a pack of people that you wanna gank, you wanna kill one and slip out, or fail your attack because you lack speed and have problems slipping out from the same reason?

The dagger goes for cov in ONE situation... That's when his enemy is an exclusive melee, just like him. Vs destro. Vs other daggers. That's when you get cov. What's he gonna do, kite you? His range is the same or lower.

And stop overrating cov. If you get the ma, you're gonna die in a few seconds anyway. A little pdef and mdef at the cost of speed is nothing. With cov, you simply have no chance to run. You're gonna say 'I'm gonna cancel it'. Go ahead and lose the little advantage of pdef and mdef you got, because you're already in the ma. You die in 4 secs with cov, or 3 secs without it. If you have powi, such moments can be avoided.

As a dagger the most important, is to be able to hide from incoming attacks, and by doing this u can interrupt the skills of the enemies.

So Speed can save u from
anchor, stun and crucial debuffs, if u can use the environment.