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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:31 pm 
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stop asking which char is better for you..or which char is stronger...
it depends on the players skill,if he suck,anybody can beat him,
remember, any offensive char can beat other class...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:46 pm 
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Tank vs. Tank is mainly about cp pots ammount and stun luck, if they have +- same equip, same buffs.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:47 pm 
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in theory sk/tk have the advantage in self buff
they both have shield/might + cubics and other buffs
in full buff i consider them all equall well maybe DA is a little more powerfull iuf his panther is buffed too

but on the battle field its all about luck and player skill


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:35 am 
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Both self buffed and especially full buffed the sk holds the advantage.

Why? Simple. Offensive stats. In full buffed combat, the speed difference between classes is unchanged.

Now... The advantages of sk:
Higher casting speed (this is essential).
Higher attack speed to interrupt and drive the enemy insane (remember, shield bash mana consumption is ridiculously low.
He can slow your ass more efficient, he can kite your ass much better. He can hold his hp up for longer (empower, dance of mystic, cov).
The adversary's con will be high, so his cp will be high. Start your match with touch of death to inflict massive cp damage.
Disadvantage: cubics are unchanged.

The tk isn't too advantaged, because he pretty much relies on his cubics. Heal, then damage cubic. This class is far better (I'd say the best tank) in self buffs.

The DA is advantaged like hell if his panther is buffed. But that turns into a 2v1 fight, because the buffed panther has amazing offensive stats.

The pala is advantaged too under angelic icon. It really sais its word. But he may get expelled by the DA, since he has a nice bunch of reflect damage.

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The pala is advantaged too under angelic icon. It really sais its word. But he may get expelled by the DA, since he has a nice bunch of reflect damage.


DA's reflect damage still ends up suffering 2 times more damage than the attacker receives from reflects. If pala can keep stunned DA (increased atkspd) until AI, then he may lose 4k hp but DA loses 8k while DA doesnt do much damage maybe only the reflects, and touch of life + self heal after AI can regenerate pala even until a shield stun's effect wears off from DA...

P.S. imo

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But it's still a powerful weapon, remember. That is only if the DA does absolutely nothing. But you can't keep a DA stunned. He has the same chances to keep you stunned.

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RAFAR wrote:
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The pala is advantaged too under angelic icon. It really sais its word. But he may get expelled by the DA, since he has a nice bunch of reflect damage.


DA's reflect damage still ends up suffering 2 times more damage than the attacker receives from reflects. If pala can keep stunned DA (increased atkspd) until AI, then he may lose 4k hp but DA loses 8k while DA doesnt do much damage maybe only the reflects, and touch of life + self heal after AI can regenerate pala even until a shield stun's effect wears off from DA...

P.S. imo


DA has a panther, don't forget this. He causes amazingly high dmg... A/w the winner of a DA vs Pala fight is the one who will land Shield Slam imo.

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InfernO wrote:
yes,DA is the greatest one xd

btw,dontlookatme DA lvl 78 Erica... http://www.youtube.com/v/57K_B2R7uwY


For all the fanboi of DA killing matryrs no s grades, here u go:

http://pvparena.net/video/pP_Dark_Messiah_vol_1

no offence but Da is not the best tanc cause of some movie, also that's not dlm best choice of a movie, since the opponenets are clearly underequipped and pretty low lvl. Dlm has a lot of better movies than that. Any end game tanc with imba equip is good. 1 on 1 my opinion is tk the best. Killable but hard. Same as pala.

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Imo, depends if you count with 81 skills. If you do so, things will change a bit, but still, its like SK and DA are offensive (but SK is still fare more offensive then DA, since DAs offense is only in seed of revenge, insane crusher, drain and reflect damage, while SK has cubics, hex, 2 drains, lightening, pain of shilen, 2x TOD and dots) and pala/TK defensive (TK is fare more defensive, cause of cubics, also has advantege in his heals ->are faster and canot be stolen by agro, cuz they are self buff type spells, and has 2 TOLS (touch of eva))

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Well i prefer elf tanks with one minor detail:
For a SK get a good m power wepon and a good dagger.

the same fot TK, i prefer a focus or haste dagger instead of a sword.

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sextoy wrote:
InfernO wrote:
yes,DA is the greatest one xd

btw,dontlookatme DA lvl 78 Erica... http://www.youtube.com/v/57K_B2R7uwY


For all the fanboi of DA killing matryrs no s grades, here u go:

http://pvparena.net/video/pP_Dark_Messiah_vol_1

no offence but Da is not the best tanc cause of some movie, also that's not dlm best choice of a movie, since the opponenets are clearly underequipped and pretty low lvl. Dlm has a lot of better movies than that. Any end game tanc with imba equip is good. 1 on 1 my opinion is tk the best. Killable but hard. Same as pala.


lol loved the cancel stick pvp at pagan's :D :D


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Where you forgot Paladin??? Forgot about Angelic icon + ToL? ITs imba skills and if u use shield of faith in that time ur enemy will be dead in a minute
:) its my opinion btw i love SK but TK is kindda more IMBA than him

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Sekkurel wrote:
SK is the most offensive tank out of all
TK i believe is most defensive ( tol healing cubic lots of shield def rate etc )
DA/Pala there not very good in self buff ( IMO )

i suggest you try all of them and see with which 1 you play better then that class will be best for you

just as a side note THERE IS NO BEST CLASS !!!!!!!!!


Besides the need to spam hence the obvious wow " there is no best class" ,regular einstein, how's not da and pally good at self buffs? Waht do they need in u'r opinion to make em good? Since u caps the obvious, pls caps and explanation also.

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Well i prefer elf tanks with one minor detail:
For a SK get a good m power wepon and a good dagger.

the same fot TK, i prefer a focus or haste dagger instead of a sword.


My personal opp is Fb focus will always be the best and logical choice. On other classes that jusst have weapon mastery Dagger would be great but for tancs i say it's Fb + draco 1st pvp weapons,

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SK,TK > Pala, DA because of Smart Cubic

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TK can own all other tanks on oly!!! (If they have the same grade) TK>PA>SK>DA (before gracia)


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