IMO berserker is mage killer ..... loadz of m def and all those rushes(shoulder ram.etc) lets him be very close very fast.

Especially a necro killer. Dark armor.

Trooper:
lvl 20: Strike back (reflect damage toggle)
lvl 24: Furious Soul (increase crit rate/damage reduce pdef/evasion)
lvl 28: Self-Might 1 buff - about as useful as female haste 1 buff; not very.
lvl 32: Rush (target oriented dash) - Warder version is Warp, non-target dash. Similar, both ok. I prefer Warp though heh
lvl 36: Courage (resist mental attack), Disarm (hax), Sword Shield (increase pdef and reduce speed).

warder:
Warder has no very useful unique skills - detect/defuse trap are crap, increase range and rapid shot is meh, warp is ok, fire trap won't do any damage at higher levels.

Male Kamael D grade skills could all be useful up to high levels... I think.
He has Disarm, where gladi will get it at post level 78, cmiiw.

i see only usefull that strike back and sword shield, others from male versioni dont think they will make a difference. Furious soul for pve maybe, but in pvp, you rely on skills, both magic and physical, and critical rate/damage will not make almost any difference in offense, but can lower your defense. About female, witching crossbow and firing that fear arrow can be fine too, or just root someones ass by bind shadow and then pull crossbow and shot ~ i think its about personal taste, imo i like more the female version (dont forget she has better magic stats too, but nothing BOOM like though). Anyway, if there will be female SB vs male SB, i think that male will have better chances of winning, but not a way higher imo

The first info that the berserker will be an upgraded version of the destroyer was verry far from what we see from that class its like comparing gladiator with bladedancer . The only thing that destro and berserker have similar is the two handed sword mastery . wile the destro is a normal hit atacker ( not so deppendable on DMG skills ) the berserkers main weapon are the skills. lotsa stunns combined with rushes, disarming at low lvl and mass disarm at high, mass stun rush after 76, and few DMG skills with decent power.
+ basicly the berserker can win any debuffer ( soul cleanse - removes debuff ) and the speed that he get not only running but also atack speed raly makes him a formidable opponent for most mage classes and archers, But dont compare him to destros cause the berserker can never reach the orcs masive DPS ( nomatter what skills he uses )

Still the strongest kamael class IMO is soul hound its like the OL of the kamaels

at last NCsoft made a class that can kill a necro in 3seconds xD
and resist his DARK WTFOMGPWNED atacks

with all these dark resist buffs that are available in CT1+ its easy to kill necro

kamael=gtp char

what's gtp stand for?

I notice that dark weapon and surrender to unholy do nothing to mob, no damage amplified from my atk... is there any of you ever notice the different?

u r playin l2j?thats maybe the problem

paladin + tts set + holy armor + resist unholy + divine protection + cov + AI + dagger + maj heavy set -> gf necro

what about landing slow?pali gone:)

Exactly. While a berserker has charge.

yep and also skills that hit ranged:Ddont remember the name but"it hits everything on the ground and in the sky"

and pala got root...........better then nothing