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Sekkurel
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another option is to make his attack speed worse then that of a statue :)))
as far as i know necro has mass warrior bane that decreases som e sh!t
the sps and sorc dont have debuffs maybe cancel but its cast speed is sh!t
the sph has wind wortex that deacreases atk speed and some other tings
wind shacke plus has dark vortex and vampiric both good for hp recovery :)
in ther words the HE is sh!t against a skilled player :)
better said against a DE skilled player :)


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ur right mages can rly make the he silly;]and ofcourse curse chaos that makes the he miss like hell(and with his low dex base stat he is gona be smth like ..-->XD_


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And yes , we're still talking about PR vs HE. Keep it going with offtopics.


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and ofcourse we are sorry about the offtopic master


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Chainer wrote:
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It's between pr and HE. I'd say HE.

almost every archer is dead meat at oly... but elves/dark elves have at least a chance
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Archers are extremely weak against mages, and especially HE because he lacks speed. The pr and sr can kite the mage for a bit, while the he can't.

in buffed pvp like CS archers don't need to kite... any mage is down on 2 shots, if neither of the two crits then the third is certain...

We're talking oly.

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Xp, gang, mass pvp (team-like) - PR
Pvp, oly - HE
sagi at oly? You sure?

It's between pr and HE. I'd say HE.

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Icarus wrote:
Xp, gang, mass pvp (team-like) - PR
Pvp, oly - HE
sagi at oly? You sure?


ofcourse

HE is the best at oly especially mages

i'd say he is the best at sieges too

Archers are extremely weak against mages, and especially HE because he lacks speed. The pr and sr can kite the mage for a bit, while the he can't.


what can an oly buffed mage (lol zerk) can do vs a draconic bow focus in snipe :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Empower + acumen rings any bell? Your crits won't be 4x like full buffed, they will maximum be around 2.7x. Crit rate 312 with focus, it's just 1/3 crit chance in medium. The nuke with empower does a great deal of damage.

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Icarus wrote:
Chainer wrote:
Icarus wrote:
It's between pr and HE. I'd say HE.

almost every archer is dead meat at oly... but elves/dark elves have at least a chance
Icarus wrote:
Archers are extremely weak against mages, and especially HE because he lacks speed. The pr and sr can kite the mage for a bit, while the he can't.

in buffed pvp like CS archers don't need to kite... any mage is down on 2 shots, if neither of the two crits then the third is certain...

We're talking oly.

WaZaWanGa wrote:
Icarus wrote:
SoulBlade wrote:
Icarus wrote:
Xp, gang, mass pvp (team-like) - PR
Pvp, oly - HE
sagi at oly? You sure?

It's between pr and HE. I'd say HE.

WaZaWanGa wrote:
SoulBlade wrote:
Icarus wrote:
Xp, gang, mass pvp (team-like) - PR
Pvp, oly - HE
sagi at oly? You sure?


ofcourse

HE is the best at oly especially mages

i'd say he is the best at sieges too

Archers are extremely weak against mages, and especially HE because he lacks speed. The pr and sr can kite the mage for a bit, while the he can't.


what can an oly buffed mage (lol zerk) can do vs a draconic bow focus in snipe :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Empower + acumen rings any bell? Your crits won't be 4x like full buffed, they will maximum be around 2.7x. Crit rate 312 with focus, it's just 1/3 crit chance in medium. The nuke with empower does a great deal of damage.


remember mages have little CON and I belive most of the archers have +++ stun shot when they go to oly


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and as far as i know you dont go in devotion set in oly
no you go with enchanted gear boss jwl if you really wanna become a hero
and with bos jwls the stun resist increases thus making the stun shot a waste of mana /time


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Since sleep skill is almost useless in pvp ( i mean nuker sleep )
U have to finish the archers fast. I mean vry fast. And be careful with PR s. Their fatal counter can cause you pernament breathing problems, if the arrow reach your lumb ^^


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Sekkurel wrote:
and as far as i know you dont go in devotion set in oly
no you go with enchanted gear boss jwl if you really wanna become a hero
and with bos jwls the stun resist increases thus making the stun shot a waste of mana /time


100% right + con dyes and add also the option;majestic robe set;]


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I have seen a lot of cases when fatal counter ends the pvp. The pr waits his hp down and bang.

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and at l2j servers fatal=0...so if u r playin private server first roll he/th and later u can sub whatever u want;]


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Not private server. Shitty server. Dex is one of the best out there.

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yep i know;]


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What is fatal counter??

My hp-full and dmg with fatal counter about 2k

with 500 hp dmg with fatal counter 2k..

help me


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L1v3 wrote:
What is fatal counter??

My hp-full and dmg with fatal counter about 2k

with 500 hp dmg with fatal counter 2k..

help me


do u play an official/decent server?


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