That is pure siucide. MAYBE +dex -con, but +str on any elf is stupid.

Rofllol Dont tell u will add that XD icarus epic L2 Failure
Will u ever decrease str from an archer? are u serious?

OMFG LAMER! +4 Wit on SR? LMFAO ! +4 con -4 STR? LOL AGAIN! I REAAAAALLY LOL'D CANCERHEAD!!
And to our point.Dyes for SR+DB[Focus] are +5 STR -5 Dex, +4 Con -4 Dex. Try 'em and tell to icarus to go suicide.
Friendly always.

Daikoku

Wit increase resist to root/shackle/binding seal/arrest and increase cast. speed for entangle/self heals. In oly , 4wit it's quite nice.
Now. -dex on elf archer it's the stupid thing i have ever heard. SR have the biggest dex in the game. The more you have, the more you win/loose when a + or a - on dex is added. Some players , at end game (db+focus / maje / draco ) don't use dex dyes, because full buffed the critical rate cap wich is 500 is touched, with dex dyes or w/o. These players or, they don't prefer nothing, or they choose +5 str for a little p.atk / skill efficiency through p. atk. I think also that if you have AQ/Orfen/Core and maybe Baium, +5str/-5con and +4wit/-4int are probably the suitable dyes.
For oly , i'll go for +5dex/-5con and 4wit/-4int.
Yes you are.
Instead of disrespecting other members, you should go play some real lineage and lay in your bench.

I smell ownage.

@Bellos, str on elf is what? 36? Hmm let's think like in the 1st grade. The higher the stat is, the higher you lose or gain by decreasing/increasing it. The lower the stat, the lower you lose or gain by decreasing/increasing it.
That means? He loses little patk and gains some vital hp.

@Daikoku, Kent already stabbed you, but i'll just turn the knife in the wound since you used that language with me.
+4 wit is not only for "resist to root/shackle/binding seal/arrest and increase cast. speed for entangle/self heals" (Kent), it also increases casting speed doesn't it? Let's see. Casting speed involves magic. Hmm i have a hunch that entangle is a magical skill and it's essential in pvp with a destro or daggers. I think you also have heals for emergencies, and frankly i haven't seen any heal except revival and battle roar that is physical.

Also, i think sr's power is keeping his atk speed up. Now... He has rapid fire, which means +20% atk speed (very much). Now, what happens if you do -dex? You get +20% from NOTHING, instead of doing +5 dex for example and get your attack speed even higher when using rapid fire by a simple chain reaction.



I think i have played this class very much, since it's my favourite archer class in oly. I think i have the clearance to know what i'm talking about. (in other words, you just made a big fool of yourself)

You can get acu weapon for heal/entangle.

As for + dex, it's useless. +4 dex will give u what? 25 att speed? Thats it.
Crit rate reaches 500 on stacked party anyway so pfff.
As for wit and resists for root. If it helps, the help it gives is rly small.

Also, -4 str on full buffs, dances and cov on SR (no zerk) is -235 p att.
While -4 str on full buffs, dances and cov on PR (no zerk) is -280 p att.
So, YOU HAVE HIGHER x stat so u lose a 'shitload of it' does not rly apply.

All in all, +4 str -4 con is enuf. -4 dex isn't very bad either.
- str ain't good cuz will gimp your spike damage a bit.

And -280 patk out of 3k patk is...? Yeah, nothing. And -5 str is -305 patk full buffed state on a sr. On a pr, the thing is -381 patk. I think the rule applies pretty well, as you can see. Remember the way the difference affects spike damage.

+5 dex on a sr under rapid fire means +39 attack speed, 5 speed, the critical rate is irrelevant as you stated, 2 evasion and 2 accuracy. Well, when you look it one by one, you will say peh 2 evasion. Yes, but if you put them head to head you can realise that it's a good gain. That's your problem, you don't +dex on anything.

And about -str on sr again. You say it will gimp your spike damage. Well, the spike damage isn't high, like in the pr's case, so why bother? Is it better to lose 1.4k hp?

As a paranthesis, these guys said that +5 con is bullshit. If you say so... You gain 1389 hp in full buffed state.

Max HP is not too much of a factor unless you 1 vs 1.
When you got healers and CP spam max HP doesn't mean a lot.
Good to have , not even close to vital tho.

And about the p att loss. Yeah, 80 p att is SO FUCKING IMPORTANT. lol'd.
And archer's all about spike damage, unless (again) you 1 vs 1.
Thats why SR < all endgame. Doesn't change a thing tho. -STR is dumb.

And once again. Dex is the most useless stat to add. Since gives shitty difference in every stat.

Doesn't give shitty difference. And that 80 patk out of 200. That's almost 50% more, think again. 39 atk speed is almost a second rapid shot.
And don't tell me that in endgame you ain't gonna make any pvps.

And no, -str is never dumb. I say it again: low base stat. Just try it before you talk. Theoretically, you're inclined to think something else. I used to use +5 con -5 str and i was very satisfied in pvp. Remember, in archer vs archer, it can come down to a very small difference. +5 dex -5 str is good too, i like it if i plan to mass pvp.

Theoretically, you're dumb.
SR gets -230 p att. PR gets -300 p att. Quite a reason to not go for - STR
on PR but for -STR on SR,right? Keep dreaming.
And +30 att speed when u're fully stacked. Omg that's so fucking usefull...




not.


And think again mofo. If u have endgame pvp means u have a healer.
Unless you belong to L2Brazil and Co.
And you were satisfied in PvP with that setup, cuz u play in servers like
l2Gold. Against such noobs, dyes can't make a difference, can they?

lool l2brazil CO

PFOAAAH THIS MADE MY DAY!

Actually i was satisfied with that setup on retail, on a 77 ms -> shut up now. Also, some good mss from dex seem to agree with me. And gold doesn't have dyes. Get some info before you make a fool out of yourself again. -5 str +5 con is a very good move.

And you're right, against some assheads you can't express your opinion because they can't understand and flame. If you think 40 atk speed on a bow is nothing, you can think again, because it has a major impact on the arrow's reuse. BUT you wouldn't know anything about archers right? You think you know everything? Except the dagger, the archer is the second class type i know best, followed by tanks. You really thought that those cheap arguments would convince me didn't you...

Since you are clueless. Endgame means stacked buffs and items.
How can u have stacked buffs if you have no buffers.
Since u have buffers , you have healers too. Simple logic.

And 35 att speed from 750 is such a big difference, right?

on a glad r tyrant i say that 30 attack speed is shit or useless on tanks same but on archer well its not soooooooooooooo imba but still its good )
doesnt hurt to have bigger attack speed
since sr is the speed type archer its logicol to maximaze that thing its speed both speed ( moving i mean ) and attack speed

also on a sr that has rapid fire bigger attack speed = even bigger attack speed in rapid fire which means faster reuse on skills and that is a good thing you can cause more dmg in 5 mins then a pr with str dyes with your skills so i think that is good

ok about the str thing im being a little worryed i mean dam hes an archer archers are soppose to have highest patk in game and lowering there str means lowering there dmg making them almost useless BUT considering you already have high attack speed that can make up for the lack of patk but still i dont think its enough

oh and marios about the acu weapon thing yeah its good the tactic but only in oly
if you ganging or farming an an enemy shows up its unwise to have another weapon in inventory because that will overweight you and you will have to sacrafice arrows elixirs ss hp pots and stuff like that making you go to your ss holding char ( if you have 1 wwith you ) or city very often which can be verrrryyyyyyyyy annoying

Mhm simple idiot logic. Well let's see... 4 archers, one wc, one bd. That's enough to make a nice pvp party. I won't say healers are useless, but you know, there aren't so many bishops in the clan generally.

40 atk speed is something, since it's a bow. If it were dagger i'd say lol too, but it's a bow.