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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:04 pm 
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Spectral lord can die in one hit - TSS critical, so whatever you do - you should have a lot better gear than NM leather. You need S grade - then you will have chance against duelist 78+


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With transfer pain on? Don't make me laugh... If the glad chases you, run away, the summon will slowly get to his bone, so you can have time to assist or heal yourself. If it's oly style, come on... Glad has very little chances. Maybe critical triple sonic slash and a crit sonic blaster to kill the summon.

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Icarus wrote:
With transfer pain on? Don't make me laugh... If the glad chases you, run away, the summon will slowly get to his bone, so you can have time to assist or heal yourself. If it's oly style, come on... Glad has very little chances. Maybe critical triple sonic slash and a crit sonic blaster to kill the summon.


Oly ? Start with 8 charges -> Sonic MOve -> recharge - 10 seconds left -> run run run -> you reach the summoner -> Sonic Barrier -> Rage rAge rage.... Aoe, Aoe , TSS = BB.

Open pvp = don't you think that summoner won't play on transfer pain while he is farming ?


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It takes under one second to activate it. What's your point, i don't get it. Why wouldn't a summoner use transfer pain?

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Icarus wrote:
It takes under one second to activate it. What's your point, i don't get it. Why wouldn't a summoner use transfer pain?

It's true, but while one player is leveling he is very concentrated. While he is trying to heal his spectral lord, killing mobs gladiator can kill it in 1 TSS. Thats what i wanted to say. How can transfer pain help his summon ?


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its all about the player:) some will activate transfer some players wont:)


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That's the point. Never concentrate too much on pve. For example, the pve for me is indeed very concentration demanding, but i look around me once a few seconds, if you master that you won't be able to leave it out of your hand.

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Check my question again. How will Transfer Pain help the summon ?


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Transfer pain doesn't. Heal does. It's stupid to gank and go for the summon. Go for the summoner maybe you can deal some damage to him, don't get your hopes up, you're not gonna kill the summon that easy. One heal is 1/4 summon's hp or even more

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Icarus wrote:
Transfer pain doesn't. Heal does. It's stupid to gank and go for the summon. Go for the summoner maybe you can deal some damage to him, don't get your hopes up, you're not gonna kill the summon that easy. One heal is 1/4 summon's hp or even more


Its true but Spectral Lord has weak P def, Little HP, and if i am not wrong he is a magic creature. Duelist can kill him in one TSS, even before he is targeted


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glad at lvl 78+ has 6k cp and almost 10k hp full buffed so its kinda hard to kill it
my advice = bsoe if you dont know how to pvp with a summoner


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All the 79 summons have similar stats. All summons have low pdef, yes. But 79 summons aren't that low on hp. 4.5k unbuffed. He ain't gonna crit that much, he may crit 2k, but at that lvl, the summon is usually over 3/4 hp under the master's supervision, because his heals won't be that effective on percentage hp.

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how much can a summon dmg a glad ????
lets say max 1k per crit or maybe 1,5k
the glad is a walking fortress man plus he has an ud that can move :))
so he is kinda hard to kill he will just shoot you to death with his ranged skills
then kill the summon


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Sekkurel wrote:
how much can a summon dmg a glad ????
lets say max 1k per crit or maybe 1,5k
the glad is a walking fortress man plus he has an ud that can move :))
so he is kinda hard to kill he will just shoot you to death with his ranged skills
then kill the summon
Gladi has UD? O_o
multiskill server playing or..?
only knight classes have UD ( TK/SWS/BD/SK/DA/PA )
gladi is a warrior...

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Icarus wrote:
All the 79 summons have similar stats. All summons have low pdef, yes. But 79 summons aren't that low on hp. 4.5k unbuffed. He ain't gonna crit that much, he may crit 2k, but at that lvl, the summon is usually over 3/4 hp under the master's supervision, because his heals won't be that effective on percentage hp.


my soulles from 76 lvl have on self buff 2,4 k patack 6,1 k hp and i dont remember exaclu but about 800 p def and 700 m def he is not so weak i dont have summon from 79 but he must be better than this


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