I wont even read your post , is big.
Also, since summoners do generally - int and PS's death spike is has power
similar to 56's (or smth) nukers one, then it's not a big prob.

And summon may have same p att as bow. But has -30% pvp damage.
And critical rate is low (except cursed man) so ionno what u're saying :>

pff stop spreading bullshit u retard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ur mother gona go -int nob
i donno what a retarded summoner player u r but i go just like mages
+wit+int+con -men-str

u talk now as always-->u dont read the mutafukin answer before posting(that means u r a retarded kid with some mental problems)

go get a life dude.. ur go roll a summoner b4 talking rubbish
btw i rly dont care u will read or u will not
this guide may be useful for any other forum member
why dont u show us some fraps of ur pvps?or post ur tactic ?
no awy right?kkthxbb go on flame on

If CoD or Silence doesn't land, you still have plenty of chances. Disease or anchor on the summoner, weakness,mass slow or fear on the cat. If disease lands, aim the summon and it will be dead. (tested it on 72 lvl necromancer and 72 warlock). Arcane Disruption is painfull, but no so hard in order to makes you show the white flag. I said upwards Forget f*cks hard the Betray. I gotta admit, though, Feline King with Final Servitor is a way harder to beat, if your first curses doesn't land. And don't forget guys we talk about Necromancer and Warlock on lvl 70. Not PS with nightshade, shillen templar, sps with cancel, or whatsoever.
marios and GoDs3nD - guys, you're going funny. Stop with flaming and speak like normal ppl, not lifeless guys which one target in life is to prove the other one is wrong. Take it easy

never!the hax war only began has!lol

You use + int on summoner o__o You use Nightshade for PvP. Wow, how more can you fail? XD

Marios, you're talking without knowing. A nightshade is a good summon for pvp in gracia. A great one i might add. Let's see, he has shitloads of hp first of all. Then, he can HEAL YOU for 1k each time. Then, he has aggro + ud.
Situation 1: Players that don't know this class may attack the summoner, but when they get aggro from the nightshade, they keep hitting it.
Situation 2: The player knows this class and chooses the lesser hard of these two. He attacks the summoner, even if he has transfer pain and the nightshade to heal him.

Ps is hard to beat in that setup.

lol aggro is non factor since all u need is a click.
And since nightshade has LOW p att , how is PS gonna kill you?
With 60 power spike? Right...
You might survive more with nightshade cuz of heals but u cant kill shit.
What can u do with a summon that has 300 DPS full buffed? lol

It's not worth. So stop spreading bullshit.
And PS's death spike has shitty power. Non factor in buffed pvp.

Now u can go play pac-man.

another fail..epic 1 i have to admint!
now look tard!im not trolling around and posting some l2calc stats!im playing the class
DS is learned at lvl 44 JUST LIKE THE NECRO
now read this carefuly u pube!
since gracia(wich u dont play but u r talking about it) the PS is 1 of the hardasses
u r a complete retard and u dont bother urself reading my examples of pvp so im not making that mistake again-im not showing u how retarded are u and how clueless same time

nightshades agro + gloom+hex(3in1) saved my ass 2 times
first time nightshade ate the vortex that was prepared for me(and oh god thanks!-30 cast spd!) and second time saved my from geting silenced!
i have to add that spark cubic interrupted many times ur beloved necros curses
i have to add also that since i have betray the newb necros get fuked up
and since i have mage bane and summon that is able to hate i win some time and cast my bane..lets also add that the spectral lord has 3kpatk
but he dies in 3 hits when buffed with my buffs(summoner) and btb staff
ye great! a summon that has 3kpatk but cant even reach the target:D
go on marios?show how noob u r with ur next post!

1st of all, lets say PS's spike is same as nuker's one.
Nightshade's gloom is way weaker than necro's rofl.
Hate is useless unless u play vs noobs that can't retarget.
As PS you'd only have one nuke, and a dark attack one.

Means u would barely win any PvP's like that.

You don't have vortex, surrender or good gloom or arcane power.
Means your damage remains in LOW standards.
You don't have silence, slow , anchor , cod. Not even drain.
You have cubics that attack randomly, bane and shackle. And ofc TP.

Even tho it's better than i thought at start, don't even compare it to
a real nuker lol.

Not to mention, Nightshade's heal and your transfer pain will rape it's HP asap.

look if u read what ive posted of my pvp research after ur tarded post(l2fusiongaming)
u have 2 choices!u leave the summon behind and use healing macro
it has 13k hp so it will heal 2 times max 3 during a pvp
3x1k=3k of total 13
dont forget also my arcane agility wich drains my hp BUT im able to turn it on b4 starting the pvp and my summon will heal me so i dont mind the hp drain of arcane agility(wich increases my cast spd and lowers the reuse time of my skills)

or u use it as a tank
hate is still a factor since its not the retargeting problem.. its about taking a skill
i repeat the summon so far saved my ass 100%-he ate the fuking vortex dude!-30% cast means im dead for sure since the vortex slug will be the next move and that will kick my nobo ass!
the thing is that with a mage build the cast spd is quite good(great) so i am able to heal it pretty fast!also add that im able to take off ur emp/acu/empowering echo and im better than u:D

You will take em off IF it lands.
Going close enough for bane takes u in range for silence/cod.
And EVEN if Nightshade takes silence/cod instead of you, you're still screwed.

While an Sts will hit u for 1500+ even with TP after surrender/vortex
lands and w/ AP and EmpEcho. Not to mention he can get FULL drain on ur pet. And in PvP you won't stop nuking to heal your pet lol....

hehehe look now dude
dont jump from a mage to mage
if he goes drain he may be interrupted by 2 factors
cubic/me
and if we are in a small place i dont give a fuk cuz i use ud + healing macro so all drainers can go fuk themselves

i donno what a pr0 player u r but in all pvps with my ps i win
because i nuke like a necro(dont forget my high base int+my arcane agility so our dps is simmilar or my is even higher + nightshades curse)
+ i dont have a drain but i have healing summon wich will curse the necro and after that gona come to my back and heal me
the summon can heal 3k dmg till it dies or is at 1hp

look i donno do i pvp noobs or what but i win with those strategies
i even confused a guy when i sent my summon to hit him
and i was standing behind the summon so the targeting is not so easy for him:D lolz raped him

You play against noobs clearly. rofl
If you UD your pet, he can run.
Your damage output is way smaller. CoS has half gloom's effect and small range.

IF it's STS after surender, vortex w/ AP and EE he damage will be 2x+ urs.
+ if he passes vortex on u, bb c speed.
+ he can dark vortex + drain and rape your pet and keep hp high.

If your damage on, lets say STS, is 1200 after curse of shade.
His will be, 2500+ on you after both surrender and vortex (ap and ee on)
and ur C speed will be way lower. So yes, u clearly PvP vs noobs.

i think u r wrong!why?
1) w vortex-90% of players use it in the begining of pvp
answer:in the begining of pvp i use nightshades hate
2)dark vortex+drains
answer-i ud my pet and he can gtfo run around and wait + u forget something spells are casted at high range so while he runs i rape his ass with ds's till he is out of my range
after that i can
a)leave the summon and try to end the pvp-wich will be possibly WRONG because he will just use vort/silence blahbalbha
b)stand by my summon at max range of his heals OR go behind it and leave it as meatshield if the attacker decides to try another run on me

he will try to land the slow casted silence wich is used by MANY players in the very first second of the pvp
oh noes! i again start with nightshades curse!

and u all the time forget the cubics.. stun for 7 secs aint no big deal dude..
get the facts--there is no ultimate pvp strategy
i can use counter arguements on every ur move and u can do the same

tell one motive to put +int-men on my warlock since i dont need int cuz i dont hav nukes banes work 100% arcana disruption/betray had a great land rate...as sumoner u need men+con to resist longer cuz ur summon do the job