That's what I refered to as strange...Shadow Flare...

I think we have a connection. Cdl and shadow flare don't trigger any reaction.

u mean?!
u mean no animation after it?
like hurricane hits the target with a little "wo0osh" animation
prominence shows little sparkles or smth like that\

btw thats NOT fair

Yeah that's what I mean. But hey, prominence doesn't trigger it either if I remember right.
Now hey... Oo Wtf was ncsoft thinking?

we all know that ncsoft dudes are kinda retarded...

change topic...

btw, if i'm using FB-thunder, what SA is best for pvp nd pve?

What is that? Oo Thunder?

On a FB for pvp you need 1. a health weapon and 2. a focus or haste weapon. Focus gives a BIT more dps than haste, but remember, extra atk speed also means shorter reuse for skills.

For pve, health since you'll party.

icarus these thunder , lighting,earth etc are bonuses for masterwork items ( they drop from rbs and are crafter trough double craft )and they give some bonus like more hp ,more crit chance/dmg etc

Well I didn't know there's such a thing as thunder. Isn't it water/fire/wind/earth/holy/unholy? Or thunder is holy? Sorry, I'm not in theme.

icarus, FB-thunder is masterwork item.. it gives additional crit rate.

if i use, focus on FB-thunder, more crit chance and more dps.. i think this kind is for pvp. wat about pve?

btw, am i on a correct path if i use +4con-4str symbol?

hi, I'm playing on the PA.. while he is <74 (AI3) he is peace of a crap...
It means DA kicks your ass... y should only run from it.
It rly hard to imagine how hellknight could kill phoenix...
pvp's somethere else not in oli.. means that I'm always carrying buffs.. sometimes emp and vr... it means that heals are more usefull... even if the mana runs out quick.
Have you tought about carrying more than bow and your sword or smth?
I'm talking about smth like som+acu... hm? it means 100-200 heal powah plus and 15% quicker cast.
discusing about pvp.. tank vs tank.. am.. it's boring. And I think that Pala could use his AI two times while in pvp... that would be kind of miricle, and hard kicked DA's ass. There is to many ways, or scenarios about this pvp...
on pve.. PA is way better... if you can stay on <60% hps... with dle+rsk.focus... and time to time use your AI, rezults should be great.
So that was my rly noobish opinion, and I'm rly thankful for some of yrs post.

i will say paladin cause on gracia final summon the god phoinix!!!!it hits all the targets which are hitting u!!!!LOOOOOOOOOL!!!!! and ofcourse u have touch of life(cansel-debuff res),angelic icon(+atk speed,p atk,speed(i think),and life reg),a very good heal!,tribinal,soul of phoinix and many many usefull skills!!!!

a "PRO" DA can kill any paladin with finger stucked in nose. Grab a non grade dagger and use your mortal blow lvl 9. Land (bug) a lethal blow and its over. simple as hell............and quite fast too.

BTW, i havent played any tank, but, i didnt see anyone talking about seed of revenge and insane crusher, which are DA skills (yeah, i cant see them anymore on offic and pmfun websites, but i remember these skills were there, when hellbound was released)

Insane crusher doesn't seem to be as important as it seems. I don't know the reason, maybe long reuse.

Btw, where is insane crusher? I can't see it on retail page. It should be there.