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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:43 pm 
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No. People can't be mummified the way saints did. You're wrong.
Also...LUCK? When doctor tells you, it's not possible to walk ever again, we did all humanly possible. And then you walk again. Is that fucking luck?
And people don't need to believe in anything. They should believe tho.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:45 pm 
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look i have seen many things
we are not same age probably
but this makes me no clever
makes only older
lol
so
years ago a friend told me about flowers
that blossom in marys icon
so
i asked
and i found out that this was hapening in every branch of this flower
everywhere in the world
because it is a matter of season (15 of augoust)
and not a matter of miracle
so i think that all miracle have an explanation like blood coming out of paintings
persons have been caught and brought to justice for making these icons bleed
so why should i believe it?
it was mans creation not gods
about blood in sea
i think u should go and check again
(if u are not telling lies)
if u dig u will find something under the rock
aaaaaa
and like u said i say that i dont believe it and no bad thing happened to me
lol
and i do so
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:46 pm 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
saint bodies may be mumificated
rotting depends on the % h2o in the air,depends on many many things..even the % of fat in the body..


then how comes most of them being priests or martyrs?

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mariosxx wrote:
No. People can't be mummified the way saints did. You're wrong.
Also...LUCK? When doctor tells you, it's not possible to walk ever again, we did all humanly possible. And then you walk again. Is that fucking luck?
And people don't need to believe in anything. They should believe tho.


pff dude u r just trying to find a way to flame me or what?
u know how everything in ur body worx?i dont think so!
and i didnt say all ppl need to believe..for example i dont need god to know that killing is bad,stealing is bad,raping is bad
i dont need a god to create a path for me..i choose my path..
and how do u know how saints may be mummified?i dont think u r a pr0 in mummifieing

edit:@ruud priests and martyrs have different status in the yerarchy..they are not some random citizen of earth..they are speical ppl so they are mummified..

how come most of the fuking crashed airplains are fking boings?because theya re cursed?NO BECAUSE THEY ARE PRODUCED IN BIG NUMBERS!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:49 pm 
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and about ill ppl
coming well
it is common
but if u are trying to find god behind that
please try to think again
every 3 seconds a child dies
and no god does something for that
so please next time ask god to save kids in africa and not all the well lived white guys on europe


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:51 pm 
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You all are missing the point of a miracle. There is no way to transform water into wine, to fly a plane without fuel, ...

Miracle are diffrent, the fact is extraordinary things happen (if its on the media or not), the miracle is that you are in the right place in the right time.
Lets take an example, when Mozes made the Red Sea split, so he could pass through it. He couldn`t, thats is how the bible is telling the story so they would get more believers.
My opinion (if this has happened): There was a extraordinary low tide (not your averege really low tide, but one that occurs once every 2000 years or something and that does happen) and they came just at the right time and to the right place (where the bottom isnt very deep), so they could cros.
But the Egipt king/princ came to late, the tide was turning already or the ground was to muddy for his horseman to cross.

This is just an example


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:53 pm 
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I know many things about the human body, because im gonna be a doctor.
And there are many saints whose body doesn't suffered decay.
For Example: Saint Bernadette. When people exhumated her grave they found the body without rot and decay.

Miracles are happenings that we cannot explain. The transformation of water to wine is impossible to a human. But it is possible through the help of the God. The only problem is that, th relationship betweeen humans and God is becoming worse and worse :/ And it is only our fault.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:55 pm 
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I'm gonna seriously hit the psp and finish my fur-human stuff soon....

First,
If the world is perfect, then that's why there's AIDS and cancer.
WHY? Because this frickin world will die soon, BUT the fking human is so disguisting and pervert that they keep multiplying themselves, even not cancer/aids can stop them, even more, it gives them more chance to have even more fking human children from what they can become a normal dude in 10%, generic guy against world[trash, chemicals, don't care about recycling]in 30%, villian in 15% and sick people or something else.

AFRICA, omg....they rly love they children? That's why they don't just die, they make more children so that they can suffer as well?

After all this, human and the torture. I HATE SUNSHINE GUYS: those fking jerks that don't even know a fk around themselves.

Criminals, wars, gaschambers, sawing a maids breasts to see how much it hurts, animal research for 3% medical, 73% cosmetic 24% war.

Then the politics and power/moneymaniac freaks....

Soon, every human population will be like 1human/5meter[skyscrapers, panels etc] living on each other like parasites because they couldn't help on them.


Second,
Future? From what from will we make it? We alrdy nullified lots of materials. Flying cars and robots in 3000? XDXDXD, til 3000, this world will be dead.

Third,
God? God does nothing. For me, God=unknown power.
The humans have an EXTREMELY limited mind, don't even try to imagine anything like god, because we can't, we're too stupid for such things, face it. Leave it as it is. Bible's needed only for lonely ppl or for those who want to believe in something. I had written alrdy 2 examples that the bible is incorrect and illogical with itself.

I couldn't tell better what I feel for your limited minds' created God, because you think that you can imagine God, even more you think that God is a he or even talks with us. God gave as free will right? Then why he leads us anyway, why God sent down Jesus to tell us what's right? Why God wanted to destroy the world when Jesus was walking up on the hill with the cross on his back. God made perfect, God's perfect, then why God changes "his" mind?

+1 for Icarus, I see that he's thinking almost the same way, he told in short what I wanted.

Don't think that this world is perfect, there are about tons of more universe that we didn't discover. I might say, that now there's about millions of the same world as ours, but just with one or two minor changes [like I in an other world I wrote this down, but in about hundreds of other "earths" I wrote it down with less grammatical issues]


For what I do believe. That there's is a world, where the animals [such as wolves, racoons, foxes, cougars, tigers etc....]evoluted faster and their perfect balance, they could make the one and only perfect world for me


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:56 pm 
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make a mummy???
yes
not easy
but can be explained
and i am not the one to explain to u
search for explainations
ur self
the only thing that is for sure is many lies about saints have been said
like recent white skin of greeks saints mummified body
lol
it was black
when a camera went close
but a believer
was certain to see it white
ok
np
if u want to see
things that are lies see them
i remind u that there are no ppl with no legs walking
no matter how nuch u try u will find ppl starting walking after shock of some kind
and all of them they had their legs
If u find blind man with no eyes at all
NO EYEs
and god makes him see by creating new eyes in him than i will believe


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miracle is what sience cant explain.. the ancient man named lightning as a miracle.. lol!

dude u cant write more than 10 words per line or what?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:01 pm 
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This world WAS perfect. But humans screwed it up.
Why do u think God should help us?Humans made many mistakes and Jesus sacrificed himself for the humans, But still theese guilty creatures can not walk the path of good. They can not do anything that is separated from money. They are materialists, but the only problem is that the materials are not for ever.


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Lyhno is on Emo mode xD


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:04 pm 
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God? God does nothing. For me, God=unknown power.
The humans have an EXTREMELY limited mind, don't even try to imagine anything like god, because we can't, we're too stupid for such things, face it. Leave it as it is. Bible's needed only for lonely ppl or for those who want to believe in something. I had written alrdy 2 examples that the bible is incorrect and illogical with itself.


thats where u are wrong. God cannot be explained by logic ( according to Orthodoxy), it can be explained with all these miracles, these indirect influences of God in our lives and his appearnces.

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Religion = FAITH!!! and Faith is something u don't get that easy, but still people need to belive in SOMETHING even in this cyber-age. 4 all those who try to explain God's existence in a ny rational and scientifical way i have only one aswer: U are bigger retards than guys in 3rd grade comas or brain dead ppl!!!

man needs to belive in something: sun, clouds, moon, wather, pagan gods, lottery numbers. But when u'll come to me and say " i belive in the sun" i'll aswer: " HA!!! my GOD created the sun with just the power of word. he said <let there be light> and the sun appeard, so ur faith is in my religion's trash can!"

So what if the church is leaded by corrupted men? so what if the fallow only profit? that's their path in life, and i have mine, and my path is GOING 2 THAT CHURCH AN BELIVING IN G O D !!!!

for those who don't belive in nothing, i pitty u... I respect a muslam or a buddist more than an atheist.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:11 pm 
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I agree. And they still made no answers to my question about nonexistence :)
They hate me and can't read or they understood that nonexistence is not existing :)

Aetheists are lol. :) ( I dont wanna hurt your feelings. U can still play L2 very well :) )


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