The thing with the bd pulls or not. I'm always playng like that in fog nights, in all kind of spots.
In some spots where you can take from 5 to 10 rooms, all 3 : bd,sws,destro will go and pull mobs in less than 2 minutes so that destro can enter in frenzy with renewal/fury on him.
Absolutely no bd,sws or cardi doesn't take aggro because while destro is hitting mobs ,all mobs will go for destro.
In some spots bd/sws will only pull mobs, but in other fog spots there are mobs who transforms. Sometimes they give nukes, sometimes they hit melle. If they give nukes, bd/sws will hit them untill those mobs will be melle and will follow them right to the destro.
I'll try to fraps in one night, when i'll get the chance.

+1. We did that in FoG.

And both icarus and dogsent are clueless as always. :*
Not real arguments as always.

Oh and icarus. Even with FD (-30% crit rate) ur dps is higher from behind with normal hits. Get a clue before you comment. And difference with fd and w/o = 29% vs 23% in crit rate. Whoever crits from behind gets aggro and the other one hits form behind and repeating. You can reach 3k dmg aprox on mobs in DO/FP/Saints or wherever...Talkin about low p def mobs.

And BD/sws or even tanks don't tank for the simple fact that they can't keep aggro from DD for long. You can't keep aggro from frenzied destro.
And you don't need to either. And for the other crap you said, a mage party will NOT die in couple secs. And fyi, Balance life is a must for mage pt since can heal all party and doesn't get aggroed At least more useful than a PS for healer, aint it?

Now be more clueless plx!

Actually I was talking about imperial tomb.

@Kent, that is in lower-scale aoe. I don't see a bd holding a fog room for that much.

yeah you are right , the mobs near ember room gives some kind of aoe fire spell , very hard to make a train there :S because while mobs follow you they activate that spell .... anyways i always prefer pagans over fog best place for pole imo

@icarus and godsend , i got 79 nobless gh with 76 saggi sub , 77 bd with 78 dances lol , 78 PP and other unimportant chars like selldwarfs and stop being so retarded , dont make me start posting screenshots

kent explain this:u say that bd and sws run around and get agro mobs
same time we have the mobs that nuke
and the bd has mobs on his ass
he stops and keeps hiting the nuking mob?
same time the other agro mobs hit him
how u gona make it?

Yeah, that's for low scale aoe. I can't see a bd handling a fog room.

BD and sws can pull 3 fog rooms as far as i've seen.
Destros get aggro instantly anyway. And not to mention bd and sws have ud in case smth goes wrong.

instead of making the bd/sws use mana on aggro or probably send them to there doom invite a tank and let him do the job
unless the bd/sws are very good players and know how to make trains AND SURVIVE!!!

BD/SWS don't need to use aggresion on those particularly mobs. They just need to hit them untill those mobs will hit them melle and will follow them. BD/SWS can go then closer to destro. Afterwards all mobs will go on destro. It's just a matter of time of a couple of seconds. After bd and sws will get mobs to the destro, probably in some spots like some of them from upper fog, will still remain up to 2,3 mobs. They leave them right that. After destro will kill his mobs, will go and kill those remaining mobs. Why don't bd/sws try to get those 2 mobs to the destro too? Because if it's running out of time, wich means destro will remain w/o frenzy, those mobs can multiply and you'll lose precious time. You'll need to do guts etc.. Those mobs can be killed one by one and it's a lot faster in that way. Destro won't need his pole for that. He'll equip his dual handed weapon and kill them a lot easier. You'll still remain with some time until 50 seconds of remaining cov will come.You need to kill a long train per a round of cov. In some spots one of bd/sws or both will go w/o cov and start making the train. After he/they leave, wc will give cov and destro will go and make his train.
@Today is sunday. Maybe, tonight i'll make an aoe. Sunday night it's less crowded, i mean less wartags. Friday and Saturday nights it's barely posible to make a long term aoe pt. Sometimes, even during the week.

you got no idea how to make a train of mobs ............ you agro every mob ? haha

lol'd tbh

3 fog rooms? Lol'd hard. 3 fucking fog rooms? I understand a room if it's very very close, but three rooms implies lots of walking. And really, fog mobs aren't slow. And if you run they nuke.


Oh yeah, ud is there. So what? Stand and die or healer gets aggro.

In S grades you can take even to 4 rooms. Just use ghp's or healing potions. If you'll get stuck on your way,use elixirs(it happens sometimes, nothing is perfect).
If you run and some mobs nuke, you don't care. You care only when you got the mobs to destro and some mobs remained out of destro range and are still using nukes. Even if they are 10 remaining mobs like that, it's not a problem, because if you'll hit one, mobs near that one will hit and follow you and they can turn byself in melee. You'll be able to take almost all mobs to frenzyed destro in just a matter of time.

@About frapsing. It seems that tonight isn't my lucky day. My destro will go to work and tomorrow , I will be the one who can't stay because i'll go to work next day. Who knows, maybe i won't go to sleep.
It's hard with all studyes and work to synchronize with my fellow destro especially during the week and in weekends it's really hard to make AOE.

For walking you can add song of wind. You will not die if you know how to play it. Don't comment on things you don't have a clue about.
They nuke so you hit em to turn mellee. You don't have to bring all at once. Destro can finish off remaining onces with 2 handed.

And as stated before, if you have to heal at start, do it with balance life.
Doesn't get aggro. When destro has all mobs on him he wont lose aggro.

Edit: Nvm, kent summed it up.

I want to say that wind song it's needed.
Well, i use 2 different disco's.
1: renewall/fury/hunter/earth/wind/fire. After this disco, Destro/SwS/BD will go make trains.
2: fury/hunter/vampire/earth/fire . When you do this row of d/s destro is already in frenzy.
About healer. You can have healer even an EE. But i'm used not to go to AOE w/o Cardi76+ (BL). I even have accounts from SD/SM/Cardi who don't play anymore, and depending of what players we find, i'll log one of those 3. Probably SM or Cardi, because usually in AOE nights, I and other 2 friends, destro and SD, are playng. Crazy triangle