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 Post subject: DOES GOD EXIST?!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:38 pm 
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As the title says, discuss this shit topic here, not in the winged cat topic.

So is there a god, or smth above us which controls everything ?

I don't believe it.
Those ppl who lived before 2 million years wanted to believe in something, and didnt know some things, like the laws of physics, chemical reactions and stuff. So they "created" something bigger than theirselves, thinking that it controls everything - the weather, the plants, the animals, the rivers, the sea...
but today ppl know eveything about their enviroment - how the weather would be after 2/3 days, when the plants will grow up...

so what's ur opinion?

And why should only the human have gods? why not the animals?!?! Are they dumber than us...?

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go to abstract allys forum in offtopic section and find very long discussion


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:45 pm 
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let me in or gimme ur pass via pm

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:48 pm 
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guys God exists. Great Paters of Orthodoxy explain that God is not something that can be explained by logic, and as I see this is how you try to explain it...

Also, miracles rly happen, don't they? My island, Chios, is the hometown of Saint Markella. She lived in a little village by the sea and she was hunted by her father (who believed in the 12 Olympian Gods and hated her cause she was Christian) until the rocky beach, wich was near this village and cannibalised, her blood was spilled in the beach's water and is still flowing there, TODAY if u come u will see the blood, I've seen it myself. B4 about 40 years a lady said that all this is paint, the same day she got injured very badly. After time passed she understood what was wrong, she regreted and was cured. Then she invested money to upgrade this place and build a church for Saint Markella.

btw some even say that all these monsterous births or even AIDS is sent by God to punish us for disregard.

And if God didn't created us.... then how everything is so perfect?
Our skin is the right place, our bones and muscles too, we have 2 hands, 2 legs, heart as a very important organ is very well protected, brain too.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:01 pm 
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I agree. God exists.
The bad things in the world happen because of humans.
Chemistry phisis ? So what? What if God created thhese. What if God created the world by using theese? We don't know.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:03 pm 
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According to Genesis God sent humans to Earth in order to protect it... but we don't see something like that happening nowadays...

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God exists? WE are perfect? DUDE, if you want a perfect body look at the crocodiles. They are PERFECT. God doesn't exist. God didin't create our bodies nor the crocodiles. What you see in a crocodile is the result of milions of years of evolution. There's no divine origin in there.

God was made as a thing to worship, a pray-tool for the weak-minded. Time has passed and the church (the most stupid thing on earth) issued god as a divinity that MUST be believed in, either you will go to HELL, where SATAN will keep you in torment for an eternity. People... ALL THIS IS BULLSHIT!

The church: the church is a profit organisation. Can't you see through the priest's lies!? The church was designed as a holy place. IT'S NOT ANYMORE! Preachers now get all the profit. And i won't even mention about the banality of christianity itself. VIRGIN NUNS? SICK!



I don't believe in god or any other 'divine' entity. I believe in my own powers.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:21 pm 
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pfffffff why u talk crap dudes?god exists?why u think so?u read bible and believe every single word writen there?ok
so read my post and believe too--shalana has 5 legs on his head
and ruud has 4 dicks on his back...
i dont belive in nothing till i see a proof..till i see hear or smell it


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:40 pm 
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then how was life created?

and hell is described as a place where you get burnt in fire or die over and over a get to explain that u suffer. Hell is a place where u suffer not this way, but because you are alone and evry1 needs some1 on his side, a friend or sthing....

And if you want proof come and check all of these holy places with the blood in the sea, the crying or bleeding pictures of Mary and ask all these ppl who pray and get cured dangerous illnessed or injuries

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:41 pm 
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The Bible says things that cannot be understanded simply.

And i don't think that humans are perfect.
But i think humans are way better than alligators and crocodiles.
Thx to our cool fingers ^^
Evolutuion? As Darwin said, it is just a hypothesis, so it is not for sure. And okay. The evolution have many truth inside.

We are not just body and mind. We have soul or spirit or whatever too.
What do you think, why people able to live together in harmony ( I said they are able, not that they do it :P )

And what dop u think aboput existence? Where did it all start? Where are we all going? Can u truly believe that u will die and u will stop existing ?

Just try to imagine nonexistance. It is impossible to imagine it because it doesn't exist. "Nothing" just doesn't exist. that is all I can say. My life will end once. But i will never stop existing. ( I think i can not express myself in english :( )


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:47 pm 
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Ruud44 wrote:
then how was life created?

and hell is described as a place where you get burnt in fire or die over and over a get to explain that u suffer. Hell is a place where u suffer not this way, but because you are alone and evry1 needs some1 on his side, a friend or sthing....

And if you want proof come and check all of these holy places with the blood in the sea, the crying or bleeding pictures of Mary and ask all these ppl who pray and get cured dangerous illnessed or injuries

HELL IS A FICTION CREATED TO CAUSE FEAR IN THE NOOBO PPL!!!
the humans are very filthy animals!if they are not controled well they start doing shit!u dont see now?wars..nuclea weapons blah blah blah..thats cuz now we have the all mighty democracy wich allows the little 10 years old kids watch pr0n,weristling and balbahbalba and the kid sees that the dude in the movie kills 10 evil nigahs and he tryes the same..


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:50 pm 
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rly evrything is out of control these days and probably AIDS and all these monsterous births are signs.

If you notice all these affect life.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:01 pm 
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Well first think then talk please
but if u dont want then it is ok it is ur right
There is no explanation to all things in nature
So there is no answer for all
We can think but we can not know things
thats all about god we believe we dont know we see miracles
but we are not sure if an story is true. When belief is involved then no logic and any arguments can solve problems
there is no proof
only belief
noone can convince me nad i can not convince u too
cause we dont listen
we just believe
what is true and what is not we are not made or evolved to know
we are part of a game ??
nature? or gods?
we dont know
what we can ask and answer is is it profitable in any way?
YES
it is
for book writers churches goverments suvenir sellers miracle performers and many more
do we need to be customers?
u choose
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:08 pm 
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i only believe that humans brain and subconsciousness can control humans life. When ppl believe that they are sick they will be sick , when they fink that they are healthy they will be healthy.God or Jesus ( who was only a wise man and church made him like a gods son by rewriting his notes and making it into bible) are just a invention that ppl wont be that scared of dying and some other things xD


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Sorry for my English if it was hard to understand what i was saying

P.S.S. I also believe that there is power that can interfere into our life's and change something or do some sort of miracles like that blood like ruud said but its only my opinion


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