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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:56 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:10 pm 
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ok no arguments ill go first...
warlord advantages for siege... lets seee aahhh yes agrro
tones of hp
low range skills (stun etc)
good for mass pvp
disdvantages in siege well lets see here, a yes agrro works but u have to be pretty close,stun as well, u ahve to move fast to get close where Wl is pretty slow, hmmm lets see usually the chars used in siege are the ones with big dmg( arcehrs, nukers) where WL lol dmg


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:14 pm 
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hemoragie wrote:
ok no arguments ill go first...
warlord advantages for siege... lets seee aahhh yes agrro
tones of hp
low range skills (stun etc)
good for mass pvp
disdvantages in siege well lets see here, a yes agrro works but u have to be pretty close,stun as well, u ahve to move fast to get close where Wl is pretty slow, hmmm lets see usually the chars used in siege are the ones with big dmg( arcehrs, nukers) where WL lol dmg

I have WL lvl 75 and didn't get your "low range aggro" so far... he has provoke, which 1) is not aggro and 2) is not short range :D
not meant to be the killer, but very effective in making enemies unable to kill anybody from your side, esp. when they have to pass some narrow paths (inc. gates)


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pffff look ur telling me that the WL agrro has an effect on kitting archer? or nuker?


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on nuker it may work but at a very low rate
i mean it could stop him for a few seconds


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:32 pm 
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look man im talking about important part of a party, i think that if a clan of 30 memebers all lvl 20 will have a more impact on the enemy.. they wont see anything and start hitting at random, he said that WL is a very important part of the siege, because i agree spoilers are good, tanks are good, but theyre rolle is minro in a siege they are good for open war


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:49 pm 
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Sekkurel wrote:
on nuker it may work but at a very low rate
i mean it could stop him for a few seconds


agrresion on nuker? ffs never heard of such things

agression is good only when trying to get to an enemy which runs away from you

for example an archer kiting , when he runs u use agrresion on him

but it's not usefull on mages , if they are using nukes , agro wont have any effect


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:53 pm 
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agrresion on nuker? ffs never heard of such things

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You haven't played tank ever haven't you? Aggression makes the nuker come berserk in you, hitting you with his weapon. And you dare teach me about the pala. :roll:

Btw: i'll be ready for a debate tomorrow, right now i'm tired.

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Icarus wrote:
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agrresion on nuker? ffs never heard of such things

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You haven't played tank ever haven't you? Aggression makes the nuker come berserk in you, hitting you with his weapon. And you dare teach me about the pala. :roll:

Btw: i'll be ready for a debate tomorrow, right now i'm tired.


if he is standing and looking at the sky , yes he will come and attack you , but if you agro him while he is using spells u wont cancel him or any other stuff like that


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WL provoke doesnt work as a ''Hate'' skill on mobs but it does work on other
PCs. It is great to save ur clans nukers in a siege.He doesnt have lol dmg and with the appropriate equipment he really kicks ass.ALso after the CT1 update Revival use percentage moved from 5% to 10% which will really save him into a crisis.

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WaZaWanGa wrote:
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agrresion on nuker? ffs never heard of such things

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You haven't played tank ever haven't you? Aggression makes the nuker come berserk in you, hitting you with his weapon. And you dare teach me about the pala. :roll:

Btw: i'll be ready for a debate tomorrow, right now i'm tired.


if he is standing and looking at the sky , yes he will come and attack you , but if you agro him while he is using spells u wont cancel him or any other stuff like that

Wrong, it lets him finish his spell and sends him berserk. That if he doesn't cast again.

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Icarus wrote:
WaZaWanGa wrote:
Icarus wrote:
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agrresion on nuker? ffs never heard of such things

:D
You haven't played tank ever haven't you? Aggression makes the nuker come berserk in you, hitting you with his weapon. And you dare teach me about the pala. :roll:

Btw: i'll be ready for a debate tomorrow, right now i'm tired.


if he is standing and looking at the sky , yes he will come and attack you , but if you agro him while he is using spells u wont cancel him or any other stuff like that

Wrong, it lets him finish his spell and sends him berserk. That if he doesn't cast again.


lol noo :)) he wont cast again he will just do nothing and look how he got aggression


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anyway warlods are usefull croud-controlers!aoe stuns nice debuffs tons of hp and revival!5-6 high lvl warlords with some support are rly able to do some shit!like berserking rush and stun spamming,earthquakes everywhere:Dwo0t chaos:) and imagine while they have the attention of ur enemyes 2 pts of archers or nukers smashing all the support of the oponent(healers are easy to be killed in such croud:D everybody is runin away cuz he doesnt want to get stunned and than killed in few seconds:D)


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WaZaWanGa wrote:
Icarus wrote:
WaZaWanGa wrote:
Icarus wrote:
WaZaWanGa wrote:
agrresion on nuker? ffs never heard of such things

:D
You haven't played tank ever haven't you? Aggression makes the nuker come berserk in you, hitting you with his weapon. And you dare teach me about the pala. :roll:

Btw: i'll be ready for a debate tomorrow, right now i'm tired.


if he is standing and looking at the sky , yes he will come and attack you , but if you agro him while he is using spells u wont cancel him or any other stuff like that

Wrong, it lets him finish his spell and sends him berserk. That if he doesn't cast again.


lol noo :)) he wont cast again he will just do nothing and look how he got aggression

Aggro keeps locked until he makes the character move. If he casts, he gets aggro, he comes berserk. If he casts again, when he finishes, he will still come berserk. He has to move.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:38 pm 
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the aggro stops the char from moving away for enough time lets say for a rooter or an archer to get in range and root/stun him


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