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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:58 pm 
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PP for a whole party is fail.. WC is necessary and OL can finish the needed buffs..

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:23 pm 
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Archer party needs 5 archers 1 wc 1 EE/bishop 1 bd (+1 sws optional, highly recommended XD) and a temporary pp if zerk needed...
From WC (boxed) all buffs
From PP: ww + resists + zerk (about 4-5 buff/archer) = he has enough mp to buff up 2-3 archer parties

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RAFAR wrote:
Archer party needs 5 archers 1 wc 1 EE/bishop 1 bd (+1 sws optional, highly recommended XD) and a temporary pp if zerk needed...
From WC (boxed) all buffs
From PP: ww + resists + zerk (about 4-5 buff/archer) = he has enough mp to buff up 2-3 archer parties


OL > PP. SWS > BD in archer party

SWM means CoV without re-use delay .


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:49 pm 
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5 archers :lol:
3 archers cov bd sws cardi ee and the last slot is for whatever you like: wk for cat buff and removing acumen(not that useful)/ another archer for extra fire power.
and no pp (too slow to buff) and no zerk at pvp

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:15 pm 
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EE can be replaced by SE or by another Cardi. Many times, cardi takes medusa/anchor and noone can purify/cleanse him except cardinals/SE's from another parties.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:55 pm 
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SirAdrian wrote:
5 archers :lol:
3 archers cov bd sws cardi ee and the last slot is for whatever you like: wk for cat buff and removing acumen(not that useful)/ another archer for extra fire power.
and no pp (too slow to buff) and no zerk at pvp

Finally some clever mind to lighten u ppl up!

2 archers with full support > 5 archers with almost no support
Ive been in siege pts with only 1 nuker, and its usually enough to wipe out an enemy party. Most times our siege pts have 2/3 DDs/nukers and rest supporters

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5 archers with CoV, SWS, BD and Cardi. Cant see what i miss ? One warlock instead of the 5th archer. Archer party doesnt mean 2 archers. Personally i hate ppl thinking they should be in party with full support and everyone should work for them. Teamplay > soloplay


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It's not 2 archers. It's 3 archers+wk or 4 archers.
EE-SE/Cardi or 2 Cardi and SWM/SD/CoV. This is how an archer party should look.


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Breal wrote:
5 archers with CoV, SWS, BD and Cardi. Cant see what i miss ? One warlock instead of the 5th archer. Archer party doesnt mean 2 archers. Personally i hate ppl thinking they should be in party with full support and everyone should work for them. Teamplay > soloplay

dude.. archers are useless without proper support.
in your party you have no recharger => cardi will be oom, if any sr in those archers => oom and also you can't recharge bd/sws in case they need to keep up more songs/dances or disco over.also decrease weight is an ee-only buff and also the combined buffs are a must in mass pvp (improved movement,improved shield defense).

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SirAdrian wrote:
Breal wrote:
5 archers with CoV, SWS, BD and Cardi. Cant see what i miss ? One warlock instead of the 5th archer. Archer party doesnt mean 2 archers. Personally i hate ppl thinking they should be in party with full support and everyone should work for them. Teamplay > soloplay

dude.. archers are useless without proper support.
in your party you have no recharger => cardi will be oom, if any sr in those archers => oom and also you can't recharge bd/sws in case they need to keep up more songs/dances or disco over.also decrease weight is an ee-only buff and also the combined buffs are a must in mass pvp (improved movement,improved shield defense).


In this game for every 5 archers on a srv there is just 1 cover (if no u alays have victorries of paa), 1 bd, and maybe one sws. Usually sieges are 50% of the time sit in u'r ass and flag on ally. Don't need a recharger except there are freee rechargers asking 4 pt's. they are better off in mage pt's. Except sr all have pain and usually when ppl go to sige all have the proper ammount of elixirs ss and cp pots. Cardi will not run outta mana soo quick he has crapload of it. If he can withstand a rb pt he can withstand for sure a siege pt cause most rushes last 10 min. Anyway i see nothing wrong with that setup as long as bd sws d/s well. And yea archers w/o support are crap. As well as mages. there is no dd that isn't


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depends on cardi eq
i use always conversion weapon


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GoDs3nD wrote:
depends on cardi eq
i use always conversion weapon


:lol: :lol: :lol:


btw: agree that EE is good to have, but not a must


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:35 pm 
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Change srvr imo. Go on retail or on dex and see for yourself. You won't do a sh1t with 5 archer party on siege, on gank, on mass pvp or even on farm.

@Edit. Conversion on any healer/recharger in your party it's pure suicide.


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KentZ0ne wrote:
Change srvr imo. Go on retail or on dex and see for yourself. You won't do a sh1t with 5 archer party on siege, on gank, on mass pvp or even on farm.

@Edit. Conversion on any healer/recharger in your party it's pure suicide.


Pls expand.

/Agree on conv weapon. But can't understand why archers suck...with support archer pt can't suck. At least not that much as u say :).

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:21 pm 
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Plain simple. On old srvrs and on end game, every archer have AQ/S set and some of them even Baium and OE DB. We're talking about big clans, where is the pvp not about some non-factors.
3/4 archer party >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 archer party anytime.


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