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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] L2Pagma - Classic Mix [x0] - start 15.03
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:50 pm 
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Live server on 18.03.2022 according to Countdown Timer on our website
https://l2pagma.com

OBT is still in progress until 18.03.2022. Come and check all available options on our server. I attached some photos from the game on our Facebook Fanpage for a general overview. We cordially invite everyone.
https://m.facebook.com/l2pagma


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] L2Pagma - Classic Mix [x0] - start 15.03
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:48 pm 
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https://m.facebook.com/l2pagma
https://discord.gg/NCCKkbVZMX
https://l2pagma.com
https://youtu.be/upd0RfBHwlU

OBT is over. According to the Countdown Timer on our website, the live server will be open ~♡Today♡~ in a few hours. Use Autoupdater to download the latest files. Discover the fantasy world at l2pagma.com.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:19 pm 
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L2pagma wrote:
https://m.facebook.com/l2pagma
https://discord.gg/NCCKkbVZMX
https://l2pagma.com
https://youtu.be/upd0RfBHwlU

OBT is over. According to the Countdown Timer on our website, the live server will be open ~♡Today♡~ in a few hours. Use Autoupdater to download the latest files. Discover the fantasy world at l2pagma.com.

downloading the files now :)
its quite slow


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] L2Pagma - Classic Mix [x0] - start 15.03
PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:13 pm 
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We added ~not complete yet~ L2PAGMA UPDATE NOTE in "Server Progress" section on https://l2pagma.com. There are all information about Chapter 2 and L2Pagma Seasonal Server. We will update the note on a regular basis. Follow server progress and have fun in the game. Approximate date of Chapter 2 is on 01.07.2022.


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] L2Pagma - Classic Mix [x0] - start 15.03
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:25 pm 
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We would like to announce that we are going to open two additional servers under the one name Pagma Network in the near future, depending on interest of this project. The first server is c1 on off files, the second is c4, also in the original version. We will provide more details on this venture soon. All interested are invited to take part in the discussion on our discord https://discord.gg/NCCKkbVZMX
The servers will be opened if we get strong support from the community. You can also decide which server is your favourite. Thanks to this, we will get a wider overview of this situation.


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] L2Pagma - Classic Mix [x0] - start 15.03
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2022 2:03 pm 
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L2pagma wrote:
We would like to announce that we are going to open two additional servers under the one name Pagma Network in the near future, depending on interest of this project. The first server is c1 on off files, the second is c4, also in the original version. We will provide more details on this venture soon. All interested are invited to take part in the discussion on our discord https://discord.gg/NCCKkbVZMX
The servers will be opened if we get strong support from the community. You can also decide which server is your favourite. Thanks to this, we will get a wider overview of this situation.


Due to the low demand for discord use by Lineage 2 fans, we decided to create the same poll on a different portal, where everyone will be able to choose the best options for both c1 and c4 versions. We invite you to participate in the survey.

To join to the poll, get in https://l2pagma.com and press the logo "The Poll". Thank you for taking part in this venture.


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2022 4:30 pm 
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L2pagma wrote:
L2pagma wrote:
We would like to announce that we are going to open two additional servers under the one name Pagma Network in the near future, depending on interest of this project. The first server is c1 on off files, the second is c4, also in the original version. We will provide more details on this venture soon. All interested are invited to take part in the discussion on our discord https://discord.gg/NCCKkbVZMX
The servers will be opened if we get strong support from the community. You can also decide which server is your favourite. Thanks to this, we will get a wider overview of this situation.


Due to the low demand for discord use by Lineage 2 fans, we decided to create the same poll on a different portal, where everyone will be able to choose the best options for both c1 and c4 versions. We invite you to participate in the survey.

To join to the poll, get in https://l2pagma.com and press the logo "The Poll". Thank you for taking part in this venture.


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Due to the low demand for discord use by Lineage 2 fans

not correct - the server itself is not populated hence no activity on your discord polls

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with the above problem in hand 2x servers? u feel you have low rate grindcores in mind, spare your time and money and just say no

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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] L2Pagma - Classic Mix [x0] - start 15.03
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2022 12:02 am 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
L2pagma wrote:
L2pagma wrote:
We would like to announce that we are going to open two additional servers under the one name Pagma Network in the near future, depending on interest of this project. The first server is c1 on off files, the second is c4, also in the original version. We will provide more details on this venture soon. All interested are invited to take part in the discussion on our discord https://discord.gg/NCCKkbVZMX
The servers will be opened if we get strong support from the community. You can also decide which server is your favourite. Thanks to this, we will get a wider overview of this situation.


Due to the low demand for discord use by Lineage 2 fans, we decided to create the same poll on a different portal, where everyone will be able to choose the best options for both c1 and c4 versions. We invite you to participate in the survey.

To join to the poll, get in https://l2pagma.com and press the logo "The Poll". Thank you for taking part in this venture.


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Due to the low demand for discord use by Lineage 2 fans



not correct - the server itself is not populated hence no activity on your discord polls

2)
with the above problem in hand 2x servers? u feel you have low rate grindcores in mind, spare your time and money and just say no

3)
<3


We noticed that the interest in our projects is below 0 and it is not about poor advertising as our network is being advertised. It's just that people don't trust the new brands, they don't give them a chance, there are generally too many other servers, more admins than players. They're also scared of the new things in game. I will ask out of curiosity, I saw the message that you are downloading files from us. Have you played for a while? What do you honestly think about it? Thank you for honest answer. Regards.


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] L2Pagma - Classic Mix [x0] - start 15.03
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:09 pm 
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download speed was to slow from the links provided at the time and i didnt finish DLing the client at all
usually i have ~20mbps downspeed and in that case i had 500-600kb. i decided to play Sea of Thieves instead :D

if i can share my humble opinion about the whole idea of hosting a server i have to say the problem is
1)most l2 community is comprised of people who were about 15-20 yo more than 15 years ago :D this point explains most of the below

2)old farts who didnt move on to new games cant rly learn new tricks, so a highly customized server that makes them re-learn l2 and cooperate to be a successful project? tough job!
i have played a few very nice servers with similar custom concept that wants to make all classes usable and apply a non-linear and customized char progression... none of them got appreciated!
and such svs require people online for them to be entertaining.

the only highly customized mod that i see working REPEATEDLY is the GVE model because its ONLY based on PEW PEW, no progression if u dont kill smb
btw it took me about 3 seasons on classic gve to get the hang of its custom gameplay and be efficient

3)for a mmo to be functional you gotta have ~1k players on the server, otherwise naturally people will go to older and more populated servers, hence brand gatekeeping

4)time. theres 2 types of players casual and tryhards. the casuals cannot spend a ton of time on slow progression. tryhards cannot spend their time if there is no competition.

5)inherent problem of balancing. i remember after launch ppl were complaining that some items were impossible to farm. so you made them easier to farm and they started QQing that now its too easy and smb had spent alot of time to grind stuff that now is ez to get. the more complexity u add, the harder to balance your product

tbh i cant make myself play l2 cuz i get bored of the same old farm on low rates, get bored of the p2w on midrate/pvps and cant commit to playing regularly so i cant rly be in any cp/clan thats active

smh the game progression needs to be tied with pvp deeply so it grabs my attention


PS: to me still the best ever pvp sv was made by nekys and called l2 skirmish, you didnt have farm to do just find someone to kill and trashtalk after so u make him come back and just bang again :D

you just spawn, get your gear for free, get buffed and go to some of the high level areas and pvp
we've had back and forth fights on PI wharf for hours and tbh of all pvp svs i remember only the fights there cuz despite it being a pvp server you couldnt use mp potions while in combat mode which made all pvp was pretty realistic:)


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] L2Pagma - Classic Mix [x0] - start 15.03
PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:22 pm 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
download speed was to slow from the links provided at the time and i didnt finish DLing the client at all
usually i have ~20mbps downspeed and in that case i had 500-600kb. i decided to play Sea of Thieves instead :D

if i can share my humble opinion about the whole idea of hosting a server i have to say the problem is
1)most l2 community is comprised of people who were about 15-20 yo more than 15 years ago :D this point explains most of the below

2)old farts who didnt move on to new games cant rly learn new tricks, so a highly customized server that makes them re-learn l2 and cooperate to be a successful project? tough job!
i have played a few very nice servers with similar custom concept that wants to make all classes usable and apply a non-linear and customized char progression... none of them got appreciated!
and such svs require people online for them to be entertaining.

the only highly customized mod that i see working REPEATEDLY is the GVE model because its ONLY based on PEW PEW, no progression if u dont kill smb
btw it took me about 3 seasons on classic gve to get the hang of its custom gameplay and be efficient

3)for a mmo to be functional you gotta have ~1k players on the server, otherwise naturally people will go to older and more populated servers, hence brand gatekeeping

4)time. theres 2 types of players casual and tryhards. the casuals cannot spend a ton of time on slow progression. tryhards cannot spend their time if there is no competition.

5)inherent problem of balancing. i remember after launch ppl were complaining that some items were impossible to farm. so you made them easier to farm and they started QQing that now its too easy and smb had spent alot of time to grind stuff that now is ez to get. the more complexity u add, the harder to balance your product

tbh i cant make myself play l2 cuz i get bored of the same old farm on low rates, get bored of the p2w on midrate/pvps and cant commit to playing regularly so i cant rly be in any cp/clan thats active

smh the game progression needs to be tied with pvp deeply so it grabs my attention


PS: to me still the best ever pvp sv was made by nekys and called l2 skirmish, you didnt have farm to do just find someone to kill and trashtalk after so u make him come back and just bang again :D

you just spawn, get your gear for free, get buffed and go to some of the high level areas and pvp
we've had back and forth fights on PI wharf for hours and tbh of all pvp svs i remember only the fights there cuz despite it being a pvp server you couldnt use mp potions while in combat mode which made all pvp was pretty realistic:)


Hihi L2Skirmish was entirely made by Copyleft!


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] L2Pagma - Classic Mix [x0] - start 15.03
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:42 pm 
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https://discord.gg/NCCKkbVZMX
https://l2pagma.com

Welcome back after a long break. During this period of time, we collected feedback data on the future plans of our server. Unfortunately, the interest in c1 and c4 servers is so slight that we decided to not open them. Now, we are getting ready to open the seasonal server for a period of 3 months, according to the schedule on our website. There will be no bonus items on the server. Normal rb will drop only adena and pavranium, mini rb buff scrolls, and epics diamonds. The choice of skins, 8 skills, their statistics, upgrade weapon system, tvt event, our quests, items needed to play from grocery will remain unchanged. The game will bring a lot of fun at the very beginning. It depends on your interest. Planned date on August. We invite you to participate in the game and discuss it all on the discord chat. Some information about the server will be changed on website. Best regards.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:54 pm 
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L2pagma wrote:
https://discord.gg/NCCKkbVZMX
https://l2pagma.com

Welcome back after a long break. During this period of time, we collected feedback data on the future plans of our server. Unfortunately, the interest in c1 and c4 servers is so slight that we decided to not open them. Now, we are getting ready to open the seasonal server for a period of 3 months, according to the schedule on our website. There will be no bonus items on the server. Normal rb will drop only adena and pavranium, mini rb buff scrolls, and epics diamonds. The choice of skins, 8 skills, their statistics, upgrade weapon system, tvt event, our quests, items needed to play from grocery will remain unchanged. The game will bring a lot of fun at the very beginning. It depends on your interest. Planned date on August. We invite you to participate in the game and discuss it all on the discord chat. Some information about the server will be changed on website. Best regards.


" interest in c1 and c4 servers is so slight that we decided to not open them" - I'm thinking, what then, if not C1 to C4? I feel like there are plenty of C6/H5 servers out there and it's hard to stick out. Or are you planning a different chronicle entirely?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:09 pm 
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https://l2pagma.com :arrow: CLASSIC
https://discord.gg/NCCKkbVZMX

:arrow: Character max level 2 without leveling further
:arrow: Skills set of player choice up to 8/64 with possibility to get more
:arrow: Easy gameplay (just follow the game instruction ingame)
:arrow: Small territory of battle
:arrow: One Hero and One Castle Lord
:arrow: Own upgrading weapon system and a few Quests
:arrow: No additional items with stats (only weapon, appearance armor for visual look and epic jewelry to obtain)
:arrow: No enchanting weapon system
:arrow: PVP at the very beginning of gameplay
:arrow: Farming only Pavranium for upgrading the weapon which contains skills and dark aura
:arrow: TvT Event, Demon King and other fun
:arrow: No p2w (all items are available to get ingame)
:arrow: No dualbox (one client possible to open)
:arrow: No bots (only real players)
:arrow: No autoplay system (to enjoy the game as much as possible)

All features can be found here: https://l2pagma.com/features.html

Are you looking for entertainment? Just visit us L2Pagma Reboot (Autumn Season) in 2nd of September 2022

Beta Test in this or next weekend until September :!:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:38 am 
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L2Pagma CLASSIC Reboot (Seasonal)

:arrow: Beta test from now until 1st September 2022

:arrow: Autumn Season in 2nd September 2022

TUTORIAL VIDEO L2PAGMA


https://l2pagma.com/tutorial.html
https://discord.gg/NCCKkbVZMX
https://l2pagma.com
https://m.facebook.com/l2pagma


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:38 pm 
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Innovative server, fixed from any bugs, successfully lunched in Canada. Get in the World of Legendary Blacksmith Pagma. You will not be disappointed :!:


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