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 Post subject: [Preview][L2J - Classic 2.0] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:37 am 
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NoAdvantage--L2Substack--Classic2.0--x3--New long-term project.

Revamped Substack: New dimension of PvP in L2 classic:

• Substack 1+1 (subclass added at 40 lvl for free). All skills are stacking. Same race only.
• Classic 2.0 version.
• Flawless files.
• Full geodata.
• Advanced antibot/antihack.
• RATES: exp x3, drop x6, adena x6, spoil x9, quests x1.
• Enabled loop macros (auto farm).
• Skill's auto learning.
• Auto pick-up (excluding raids).
• Balancing skills system designed for substack.
• Max enchant +8 (success rate 33%).
• Quest items for 1st and 2nd class transfer for adena.
• Bound Tattoos - 1 to your choice (for free).
• Mana potions (mp over time: 10mp per sec, duration 60 sec, delay 5min).
• All the rest is retail-like.
• Fair donations (cosmetic things/runes exp).
• NO pay to win.

Spread the good news, and ask your friends and clan mates to join us (for now on discord, soon on server ;) )

Check out for more details on our discord: https://discord.gg/g3sRYeh

Stay tuned
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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 1.5] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:44 pm 
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If you know people who have a similar point of view, you should invite them to our community. We can do much more together.

Help us increase the population. There is predicted reward for advertising our server (check out ad-reward topic in our discord).

Many relevant information you will find in "questions" channel.

Let's rise our community together and make the best server ever!
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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 1.5] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:47 pm 
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NoAdvantage--L2Substack--Classic1.5--x3--New long-term project.

Revamped Substack: New dimension of PvP in L2 classic:

We are planning to launch the first low-rate server in history of L2, based on PvP system with completely reworked skills. Every sub-stack combo will be worth of giving a try. Forgotten classes got revamped (elven fighters, dwarfs, sorcerers, BD, SK, buffers have equal combat abilities compared to other pro classes) while overpowered ones lost some of their superpowers. All you need to do is to forget about popular classes and powerful skills you used to know, and find your own unique substack combo. We have changed effects/mechanics/powers of every useless skills to make them useful during PvP. All classes are completely remastered with better, more organized and balanced skills. We want to bring some freshness and variety to L2, so forget about spaming F1 / general attack, re-learn about the skills and try new tactics in order to beat them all.

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#L2 substack #L2 stacksub #L2stacksub #L2substack #L2 sub stack #L2 stack sub #L2sub-stack #L2stack-sub

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 1.5] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:18 pm 
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Classic + substack sounds like an interesting mixture, but I seriously suggest to make at least some basic website. Being discord-only can turn off many players...

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 1.5] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:15 pm 
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Herlitz wrote:
Classic + substack sounds like an interesting mixture, but I seriously suggest to make at least some basic website. Being discord-only can turn off many players...


The most important thing for us is making good, balance and stable server without bugs. For other developers is making nice website and bad game with many bugs and not good atmosphere. We will take into consideration your words. Probably we will make website with basic server information but first we are working on files. Thank you for your interest of our server :)

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 2.0] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:35 pm 
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Hi everyone

We would like to inform you that the server will be launched on version 2.0. We've tested both chronicles and we found too many bugs (on version 1.5) hard to fix in this short time. We will be working on 2.0 files to make the game more stable. We are sorry for the inconvenience caused by it.

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 2.0] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:29 am 
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NoAdvantage--L2Substack--Classic2.0--x3--New long-term project.

Revamped Substack: New dimension of PvP in L2 classic:

We offer you an unique server with prospect for many years.

Are you not tired with servers, where is large domination, high enchantment, a lot of unnecessary items or unlimited dualboxes?

We love the simplicity of the game and a good storyline.

Our server is much different because you don't need to rush nor chase anybody, you are not even grounded. There is a small set of items and a low enchantment.

We guarantee you fair, simple and balanced server. Give us a chance and you won't regret your decision.

Our server based on:
• No pay to win
• No corruption
• No domination
• No superiority
• No exaggerated items
• No high enchanted items
• Balanced classes
• Equality
• The same chance to everyone
• Respect to everyone
• Gameplay simplicity
• Back to the tactics, strategy and smart playing

FEATURES
• Server time: UTC+1
• Chronicle: Lineage 2 Classic 2.0 version
• L2J files
• Flawless files
• Full geodata
• Advanced antibot/antihack system

GAMEPLAY
• Substack same race 1+1 (all skills are stacking)
• Pendants (1 bound pendant of your choice per character),
• Mana potions (10mp per sec, duration 60sec, delay 5min) available in grocery for adena,
• Revamped skills of every class to balance all substack combos.
• Skill's auto learning.
• Auto pick-up (excluding raids)
• Enabled Loop macros (auto farm).
• Quest items for 1st and 2nd class transfer for adena.
• Angel of death Talisman (no exp-loss upon the character's death, available from donation)
• All the rest is retail-like (items, droplist, mobs, locations, epics/rbs drops, spoiling, crafting, character's stats, quests, sieges).

SERVER RATES
- Exp x3
- Adena x6
- Drops (including Raids) x6
- Spoil x9
- Quests x1

ENCHANT RATE
• Safe enchantment: +3
• Max enchantment: +8
*Normal scroll enchant: 33% success rate
*Blessed scroll enchant: 33% success rate

ADDITIONAL INFO
• No gm shop
• No gm help
• No gm buffer
• No global gk
• No pay to win
• No corruption
• No voting system
• Dualboxing 1+1
• Offline shops
• Own events
• Fair hero calculation
• Delevel npc (available for adena)
Details:
- If player level is lower than skill learn level - 9, skill level is decreased to next possible level.
- If there is no possible level, skill is removed from player.
• Npc newbie buffer (available from 1 to 20 lvl)
• Free teleports (available to 40 lvl)
• Increased weight limit
• Increased chance of losing an items upon death with karma (equipped weapon is safe)
• 9 players in one party
• 2 clans in one Alliance
• C grade equipment+0 is max to take a part in Olimpiad
• Olympics games 5 days a week and 5 hours a day at evening time (UTC+1)
• Heroes every 2 weeks
• Color of nicknames for pvp amount

Server progression
01.10.2020 - 20.12.2020 Closed beta test
20.12.2020 - 01.01.2021 Open beta test
02.01.2021 GRAND OPENING
The date might still change.

Spread the good news, and ask your friends and clan mates to join us (for now on discord, soon on server ;) )

Check out for more details on our discord:

https://discord.gg/g3sRYeh

Stay tuned
NoAdvantage Team

Website: noadvantage.eu

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 2.0] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:48 am 
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Hi everyone

We finally have got our own website. Check out the link below:

https://noadvantage.eu

You will find there all the details about our server. Send it further to help us gather more and more people. Thank you in advance for your support.

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 1.5] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:12 pm 
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tmc wrote:
Herlitz wrote:
Classic + substack sounds like an interesting mixture, but I seriously suggest to make at least some basic website. Being discord-only can turn off many players...


The most important thing for us is making good, balance and stable server without bugs. For other developers is making nice website and bad game with many bugs and not good atmosphere. We will take into consideration your words. Probably we will make website with basic server information but first we are working on files. Thank you for your interest of our server :)


Exactly what I meant, it doesn't need to be anything too fancy, it's just that complete lack of the website was a bit offputing... The new site looks good, so gl with the server!

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 1.5] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:50 pm 
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Herlitz wrote:
Exactly what I meant, it doesn't need to be anything too fancy, it's just that complete lack of the website was a bit offputing... The new site looks good, so gl with the server!


We advertise in many places. Unfortunately, we do not have an established brand, so I am not surprised that you do not trust us. I hope that we will not disappoint anyone, and the opened server blow away your fears and doubts. There is a reward for helping to advertise the server. You can find information about it on our website in the FAQ section. Thanks for your support.

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 2.0] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:22 pm 
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https://noadvantage.eu

https://discord.gg/g3sRYeh

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 2.0] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:36 pm 
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having a good server is more than messing with java files and making scripts

looks very unprofessional overall and herlitz is being way too polite

if u dont know in 2020 that your project if it is going out to a public needs a good website - go do your homework

to do proper advertising you need to be on platforms like hopzone topzone etc - you need a website again - back to homework

the current website design and colour choices are bad and show lack of inner hunch and probably lack of finance for professional work to be done with the websites design and user experience

and finally classic 3x stacksub? this will attract a few hundred players who will try to bot for sure just to see how it is to play a stacksub classic

and it will die in few months as ppl realize its not fun when on low rate server the 1st advantageous group has stacked skills :D

ofc we would be hesitant to put our trust on project like this especially when rpgclub is launching ptsx1 sv soon


ps:
nice elevator speach about your goals and stuff like that, rly made me feel like im watchinga cliche american corporate conversation

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 2.0] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:58 am 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
having a good server is more than messing with java files and making scripts

looks very unprofessional overall and herlitz is being way too polite

if u dont know in 2020 that your project if it is going out to a public needs a good website - go do your homework

to do proper advertising you need to be on platforms like hopzone topzone etc - you need a website again - back to homework

the current website design and colour choices are bad and show lack of inner hunch and probably lack of finance for professional work to be done with the websites design and user experience

and finally classic 3x stacksub? this will attract a few hundred players who will try to bot for sure just to see how it is to play a stacksub classic

and it will die in few months as ppl realize its not fun when on low rate server the 1st advantageous group has stacked skills :D

ofc we would be hesitant to put our trust on project like this especially when rpgclub is launching ptsx1 sv soon


ps:
nice elevator speach about your goals and stuff like that, rly made me feel like im watchinga cliche american corporate conversation


Thanks for your suggestion. I would like to worry you that we are going to carry on the work with our project as we planned it from the beginning. If you don't like our idea, you souldn't try it. This is your decision.
The website is basic with all information, served on the tray. What does good website mean for you? For us nothing at all. The most important is a good stable server. About platforms you mentioned, everyone knows this is one big cheat. Thanks again for your bad advise.

Ps. We prefer 200-300 real players than 10 cryers or 24k valhala age bots ;)

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 2.0] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:29 am 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
having a good server is more than messing with java files and making scripts

looks very unprofessional overall and herlitz is being way too polite

if u dont know in 2020 that your project if it is going out to a public needs a good website - go do your homework

to do proper advertising you need to be on platforms like hopzone topzone etc - you need a website again - back to homework

the current website design and colour choices are bad and show lack of inner hunch and probably lack of finance for professional work to be done with the websites design and user experience

and finally classic 3x stacksub? this will attract a few hundred players who will try to bot for sure just to see how it is to play a stacksub classic

and it will die in few months as ppl realize its not fun when on low rate server the 1st advantageous group has stacked skills :D

ofc we would be hesitant to put our trust on project like this especially when rpgclub is launching ptsx1 sv soon


ps:
nice elevator speach about your goals and stuff like that, rly made me feel like im watchinga cliche american corporate conversation


...And I think you're being a little too harsh lol :mrgreen: I mean yeah it's not a 'mainstream' kind of project but I can totally imagine it being of some interest to a specific group of players

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 Post subject: Re: [Preview][L2J - Classic 2.0] NoAdvantage L2Substack - x3
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:04 pm 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
and finally classic 3x stacksub? this will attract a few hundred players who will try to bot for sure just to see how it is to play a stacksub classic

and it will die in few months as ppl realize its not fun when on low rate server the 1st advantageous group has stacked skills


You talk as if 99.9% of current servers lasted more than a few weeks.

L2 is dead, there are 3 servers with over a thousand REAL players (DEX is the most recent one), and about a thousand or so servers with 20 online and either:

a.- The same datapacks and chronicles that every single server uses
b.- Some variation of custom features, be it faction, dynamic rates or substack

That's it. Projects like these at least try to be something new, they may have their flaws, but you talk as if this was the days of Gold, ES-L2, Revenge, Extreme, Azure, etc when you could choose between several highly populated servers.

Your entire rant rather makes you come off as a douchebag, no offense.


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