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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:43 pm 
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Richard wrote:
H3R3G3 wrote:
Great Server

Your effort to advertise it doesn't make it great.

What could make it great would be:
  • transparency (publishing a real online)
  • prompt and helpful administration reacting to customer concerns
However, the server definetely lacks all the above.



You made a new account just to hate on this server.

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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:20 pm 
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BlackStar wrote:
You made a new account just to hate on this server.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You perceive my request to publish the real online counter as hate? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:25 am 
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Richard wrote:
How about displaying players online on your website?

Personally, I never start playing on a server with unknown number of players online.


Dunno, I feel it's kind of a double-edged sword... It would be nice if all servers displayed real numbers, but if people follow this way (low online = not joining) then really the only time you can be sure about the online number if it is too low :?

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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:49 am 
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Server still has few players, but it is growing day by day.
Look my clan:

It is a real x1 rate server, L2off, Hard Mode.

Raidboss
http://www.twitch.tv/z0dark/v/816560853?sr=a&t=0s

Take a look on my channel. Follows please.
http://www.twitch.tv/h3r3g3/v/816650324?sr=a&t=0s

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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:44 am 
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Herlitz wrote:
Dunno, I feel it's kind of a double-edged sword... It would be nice if all servers displayed real numbers, but if people follow this way (low online = not joining) then really the only time you can be sure about the online number if it is too low :?

It doesn't matter what other servers are doing. Concentrate on this specific server, please.

If the real online on this specific server is 50 right now and every time you check the counter - would you bother playing on this specific server?


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:54 am 
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H3R3G3 wrote:
Server still has few players, but it is growing day by day.

Of course. You forgot to add that in 2 weeks the online will exceed 5000.

H3R3G3 wrote:
Take a look on my channel. Follows please.

No, thanks. What I'd like to take a look at is the online counter and not spending my time on your advertisement effots at all.


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:44 am 
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Richard wrote:
H3R3G3 wrote:
Server still has few players, but it is growing day by day.

Of course. You forgot to add that in 2 weeks the online will exceed 5000.


I think you're being too harsh. Good low rate servers actually have a very solid chances of growing eventually as they don't have this kind of "opening boom" effect like mid rates... Look at Elpy or Firebird, both started with very low online but had honestly quite massive (percentual) y.o.y. growth. I see no reason why this one couldn't be the same story.

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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:30 pm 
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Herlitz wrote:
Look at Elpy or Firebird, both started with very low online but had honestly quite massive (percentual) y.o.y. growth. I see no reason why this one couldn't be the same story.

I've asked you to concentrate on this specific server 3 times so far. In response, I've got new BS based on 'other servers'.

Would you mind at least answering to my previous question to you first?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:53 am 
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Richard wrote:
Herlitz wrote:
Look at Elpy or Firebird, both started with very low online but had honestly quite massive (percentual) y.o.y. growth. I see no reason why this one couldn't be the same story.

I've asked you to concentrate on this specific server 3 times so far. In response, I've got new BS based on 'other servers'.

Would you mind at least answering to my previous question to you first?


In regards to your previous question - if the server had continually 50 online... Well it would be a bit off disconcerting, but if the settings otherwise were exactly what I was looking for and I knew it's been online for some considerable time, I'd give it a shot. Also, I don't quite understand how my comparison to Firebird or Elpy is undue - you're criticizing this server based on the fact that it doesn't have a large online (presumably, due to not shown online counter), and I gave you two specific examples of similar servers that had quite possibly even lower onlines and made it over time.

If your only concern is that the server doesn't have online counter - okay, you've made your point, but please don't resort to flaming. Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:19 pm 
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If you're fine to play on this specific server even if it has 50 live players online - enjoy.

You haven't needed to step in and give BS excuses for the admins. Thus, if you believe there is 'flame' - blame yourself.

My original question for the admins still remains:
How about displaying players online on your website?


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:57 am 
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Richard wrote:
My original question for the admins still remains:
How about displaying players online on your website?


Hi Richard,

I am not the admin of the server however am a mod.
Will put your suggestion to the GM.

If people are wanting to know the numbers they can check our discord / forums and ask the community.

If you absolutely only go by online counters and it's to hard for you to check the server discord / forums then I suggest don't waste your time in this thread go and find another server to play on.

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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:29 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:07 am 
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Oriphix wrote:
I suggest don't waste your time in this thread

Do you consider everything other than advertising the server in this thread as 'waste of time'?


Oriphix wrote:
go and find another server to play on.

If you're really have something to do with the server staff - thank you!!!
You've just perfectly demostrated what should players await from the server:
'If you have a valid request which could reveal the truth about us - get outta here!
We prefer to attract blind pussies whose eat any BS we say'.


Oriphix wrote:
If people are wanting to know the numbers they can check our discord / forums and ask the community.

No. It's what you want them to do.
Players which have seen dozens of servers like yours opening and closing every X months just look at the online counter for that.
If it's not there - they ask to add it and see what will happen.
What you're described is exactly what they're not going to do - waste their time to research about or play on another unknown server opened yesterday admins of which are scared to publish the main measure any player interested in first of all.


Oriphix wrote:
If you absolutely only go by online counters and it's to hard for you to check the server discord / forums

Don't substitute the statistical number called 'current players online' with some subjective impressions I could get from the stuff you've listed.
Going to you Discord, forum, etc. is actually would be the waste of time.


Oriphix wrote:
Will put your suggestion to the GM.

Can you provide a link so we could keep track of how it goes?


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:53 am 
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Well Richard I tried to be nice since I thought you wanted to play here.

You seem to be a dog with a bone. Sticking to one thing the server doesn't have and just going in a loop.

Imagine how much of a threat this server is to the one you are playing to make a new account and only reply to this thread. The only server I know that publishes its number is reborn.

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I mean I wonder, do you do this with other low rates? All you are giving us free bumps so thanks for that. If you think your wall of text is making a difference you would be mistaken.

Since I thought you were a possible player and not a hater which I now know you to be I planned to discuss that with the admin this weekend together with the Christmas events. I wanted to suggest to put it under the Top Online.
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But based on your attitude I won't be doing that. If you want something done you can be like the rest of the players and make a suggestion in the forums or open a ticket in discord.

Just over the past few days we had close to 20 new players join the server. One CP was recruited into our clan alone. So let's be clear online counters don't mean shit. People are joining our discord every day and checking it out.

So enough of your child's play the server doesn't have an online counter, Deal with it.


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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF] Lineage.pl - Aria[x1] - Interlude
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:54 am 
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Bump
Server is growing slowly, give it a try if you looking for low rate.


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