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Get server with no dual box and many people will play on it.

No dual box.
No custom.
No custom npcs.
No donates.

All i wanna say

tratnik wrote:

Get server with no dual box and many people will play on it.

No dual box.
No custom.
No custom npcs.
No donates.

All i wanna say

i dont agree with no danates cuz admins need money to keep the server up a server aint free for the admins there is internets and the pc's they need to be updated and there need to be good internets donations could be simple like accesories and that kinda stuff

Motorhead wrote:

tratnik wrote:

Get server with no dual box and many people will play on it.

No dual box.
No custom.
No custom npcs.
No donates.

All i wanna say

servers with no dual boxing are the most fun to play. why? well, imagine that on dual boxin any idiot has an army of buffpets ( mostly pp, bd, se) and spoilers, so the ohle server is focued on non-sense farming. try to get a good party as pp on those servers. everybody has spoilers, buffers, and a char for pvp ( mainly nukers, archer and daggers).

no boxing means harder lvling, but ity olso means great variety of players ( there are guys who like only supporting, bishops, sws, ee), maybe a balance market( nobody has boxed spoilers and crafters, so u have ot interact with other players for shots, recs, parts, mats)

the camels can be skipped in that chain

Dualboxing inherrently ruins gameplay, PvP, PvE, dedicated crafters, dedicated spoilers, and any support class. Not only this, it alienates anyone who doesn't have the computer power to run 2 games instances at a time.

PvP: Open PvP is ruined if your not dualboxing, since it is 2 against 1. In siege PvP, it means every clan has unlimited rechargers/buffers on the wall. Every archer group on the wall has an optimal party, same with mage groups, and all groups for that matter. Need a sws/bd/wc? /follow

PvE: Totally streamlines the game. Any class with any imbalance is made up for with a dualbox. Pretty much everyone will run a main and then a support class, so everyone gets buffs after newbie buffs. The PvE content is done again with a perfect group and with extra support on the sidelines. Powerleveling another character is extremely easy, and the need for grouping is eliminated.

Dedicated crafter/spoiler: Not much to say about this, Everyone will have one much faster with dualbox, takes away from the player that wants to earn adena/control the market.

Support classes: They are made trivial, if your not boxing one, your not playing one.. period.

I'm actually very surprised dualboxing is so common on lowrate servers. It just just a crutch for server population inflation and nothing more.

Wand dualbox? Play highrate.

Author:	Insulter [ Sun May 10, 2009 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Thoughts on boxes
The aim of this thread is to directly ask the audiance if they would play a server where boxing is prohibited. As I am certain to keep this short, I would ask you to answer sincerely and if necessary, that's up to you, add your argumentation in a post.

Author:	tratnik [ Sun May 10, 2009 6:50 pm ]
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Get server with no dual box and many people will play on it. No dual box. No custom. No custom npcs. No donates. All i wanna say

Author:	Motorhead [ Sun May 10, 2009 6:54 pm ]
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tratnik wrote: Get server with no dual box and many people will play on it. No dual box. No custom. No custom npcs. No donates. All i wanna say i dont agree with no danates cuz admins need money to keep the server up a server aint free for the admins there is internets and the pc's they need to be updated and there need to be good internets donations could be simple like accesories and that kinda stuff

Author:	DIABLO [ Sun May 10, 2009 7:33 pm ]
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Motorhead wrote: tratnik wrote: Get server with no dual box and many people will play on it. No dual box. No custom. No custom npcs. No donates. All i wanna say i dont agree with no danates cuz admins need money to keep the server up a server aint free for the admins there is internets and the pc's they need to be updated and there need to be good internets donations could be simple like accesories and that kinda stuff +1

Author:	tratnik [ Sun May 10, 2009 8:05 pm ]
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DIABLO wrote: Motorhead wrote: tratnik wrote: Get server with no dual box and many people will play on it. No dual box. No custom. No custom npcs. No donates. All i wanna say i dont agree with no danates cuz admins need money to keep the server up a server aint free for the admins there is internets and the pc's they need to be updated and there need to be good internets donations could be simple like accesories and that kinda stuff +1 I didnt thought like NONONONONO Donates, just donates with not imbalanaced donates like imba weps armor etc.

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Author:	redpill [ Sun May 10, 2009 8:36 pm ]
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servers with no dual boxing are the most fun to play. why? well, imagine that on dual boxin any idiot has an army of buffpets ( mostly pp, bd, se) and spoilers, so the ohle server is focued on non-sense farming. try to get a good party as pp on those servers. everybody has spoilers, buffers, and a char for pvp ( mainly nukers, archer and daggers). no boxing means harder lvling, but ity olso means great variety of players ( there are guys who like only supporting, bishops, sws, ee), maybe a balance market( nobody has boxed spoilers and crafters, so u have ot interact with other players for shots, recs, parts, mats)

Author:	atlant448 [ Sun May 10, 2009 8:50 pm ]
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redpill wrote: servers with no dual boxing are the most fun to play. why? well, imagine that on dual boxin any idiot has an army of buffpets ( mostly pp, bd, se) and spoilers, so the ohle server is focued on non-sense farming. try to get a good party as pp on those servers. everybody has spoilers, buffers, and a char for pvp ( mainly nukers, archer and daggers). no boxing means harder lvling, but ity olso means great variety of players ( there are guys who like only supporting, bishops, sws, ee), maybe a balance market( nobody has boxed spoilers and crafters, so u have ot interact with other players for shots, recs, parts, mats) good joke i know some bd nolifers that thinks of him like a god but i never saw some1 saying omagad im an ee wow im so kewl yay my ding day or an pp saying wow im a bufer i can buff all 500 ppl in my ally wow thats fun meng yay buf bey

Author:	redpill [ Sun May 10, 2009 9:07 pm ]
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since u play on a multiskill server with donations for S80 and multiboxing i guess ur opinion doesn't matter that much to me... but still, i mean assisting, crafting and spoiling is a profession jut like nuikng and tanknig in this game...

Author:	tratnik [ Sun May 10, 2009 9:13 pm ]
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L2 is like a chain. Every character is a part of that chain. If one part is missing, the chain collapses. So with no dual boxing, the chain is completed. If there dual box there is no chain!

Author:	Motorhead [ Sun May 10, 2009 9:15 pm ]
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the camels can be skipped in that chain

Author:	tratnik [ Sun May 10, 2009 9:30 pm ]
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Motorhead wrote: the camels can be skipped in that chain NOP . . . Soulbreaker's special skill with +4 rapier is rlly great for party . . . As I said, EVERY class is part of chain . . .

Author:	Gimpnation [ Mon May 11, 2009 5:28 am ]
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Dualboxing inherrently ruins gameplay, PvP, PvE, dedicated crafters, dedicated spoilers, and any support class. Not only this, it alienates anyone who doesn't have the computer power to run 2 games instances at a time. PvP: Open PvP is ruined if your not dualboxing, since it is 2 against 1. In siege PvP, it means every clan has unlimited rechargers/buffers on the wall. Every archer group on the wall has an optimal party, same with mage groups, and all groups for that matter. Need a sws/bd/wc? /follow PvE: Totally streamlines the game. Any class with any imbalance is made up for with a dualbox. Pretty much everyone will run a main and then a support class, so everyone gets buffs after newbie buffs. The PvE content is done again with a perfect group and with extra support on the sidelines. Powerleveling another character is extremely easy, and the need for grouping is eliminated. Dedicated crafter/spoiler: Not much to say about this, Everyone will have one much faster with dualbox, takes away from the player that wants to earn adena/control the market. Support classes: They are made trivial, if your not boxing one, your not playing one.. period. I'm actually very surprised dualboxing is so common on lowrate servers. It just just a crutch for server population inflation and nothing more. Wand dualbox? Play highrate.

Author:	mariosxx [ Mon May 11, 2009 12:50 pm ]
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Gimpnation wrote: Dualboxing inherrently ruins gameplay, PvP, PvE, dedicated crafters, dedicated spoilers, and any support class. Not only this, it alienates anyone who doesn't have the computer power to run 2 games instances at a time. PvP: Open PvP is ruined if your not dualboxing, since it is 2 against 1. In siege PvP, it means every clan has unlimited rechargers/buffers on the wall. Every archer group on the wall has an optimal party, same with mage groups, and all groups for that matter. Need a sws/bd/wc? /follow PvE: Totally streamlines the game. Any class with any imbalance is made up for with a dualbox. Pretty much everyone will run a main and then a support class, so everyone gets buffs after newbie buffs. The PvE content is done again with a perfect group and with extra support on the sidelines. Powerleveling another character is extremely easy, and the need for grouping is eliminated. Dedicated crafter/spoiler: Not much to say about this, Everyone will have one much faster with dualbox, takes away from the player that wants to earn adena/control the market. Support classes: They are made trivial, if your not boxing one, your not playing one.. period. I'm actually very surprised dualboxing is so common on lowrate servers. It just just a crutch for server population inflation and nothing more. Wand dualbox? Play highrate. +1 I agree on everything

Author:	Mruwa [ Mon May 11, 2009 1:41 pm ]
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Gimpnation: "control the market" muhaha thats why i always play spoil But the truth is that servers with no boxing is support server. on azure, celes (where i play atm) 70% of ppl are active support Subclass ftw //weee 100 posts

Author:	lessersuccubus [ Mon May 11, 2009 2:08 pm ]
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No Dual-Box is good only when a server has large population and reached it's limits. Buts such servers are destined to loose their players very fast. why? Cause DUAL BOX is necessary to players. You need 2box to sell and buy. You need 2box to level-up when you like to play alone or your mates are unavailable. Players who like to play support classes should have no problem with 2box. No bot buffer will ever replace a live one. Cause if you want to go for serious PVP or PVE you will always need live support. If you're a buffer and can't find a party to help you level-up, it's not 2box's fault. 1. either the server is dead 2. or you're not social enough to play a support class. People who are against 2box simply don't understand Lineage (administrators included) No 2box=dead server in a few months.

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