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 Post subject: Re: [L2OFF-IL] AegisNetwork x15 Retail
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:15 am 
Baron

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I have to agree with you! Its the only thing I don't like about this server. Hopefully, the shots in grocery store will be expensive...


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:01 pm 
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lamprey wrote:
I have to agree with you! Its the only thing I don't like about this server. Hopefully, the shots in grocery store will be expensive...

Yeah, anyway if we buy 10k SSC for 250k(25a each) we must payout like 500k when they finish, but anyway i think they will balance it, if not there will be not much dorfs :P
balanced or not ill give it a try :D


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:56 pm 
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maximalism wrote:
lamprey wrote:
I have to agree with you! Its the only thing I don't like about this server. Hopefully, the shots in grocery store will be expensive...

Yeah, anyway if we buy 10k SSC for 250k(25a each) we must payout like 500k when they finish, but anyway i think they will balance it, if not there will be not much dorfs :P
balanced or not ill give it a try :D


Prices at shop for SSC are 100each, so you need to expend 100k by every 1000 ssc.Dorfs can still craft them and sell them at @60 each, and they still will get gains.They can also "craft for shop" and sell them back into groceries at 50each and still get some profit, so dorfs will made good money with C-grade, what about B,A,S grade, mats?...Dorfs are one of the most important things to sucesfull play lineage.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:30 pm 
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Catbot wrote:
maximalism wrote:
lamprey wrote:
I have to agree with you! Its the only thing I don't like about this server. Hopefully, the shots in grocery store will be expensive...

Yeah, anyway if we buy 10k SSC for 250k(25a each) we must payout like 500k when they finish, but anyway i think they will balance it, if not there will be not much dorfs :P
balanced or not ill give it a try :D


Prices at shop for SSC are 100each, so you need to expend 100k by every 1000 ssc.Dorfs can still craft them and sell them at @60 each, and they still will get gains.They can also "craft for shop" and sell them back into groceries at 50each and still get some profit, so dorfs will made good money with C-grade, what about B,A,S grade, mats?...Dorfs are one of the most important things to sucesfull play lineage.


Dude, they can sell SSC to shops for 50a each? Are you nuts? This is way too much, it is alot more than the price to make SSC (around 16a/each) so it will inflate the prices of SSC to normal players, it were always like 25-30a each in all servers, now it will have to be more than 50a, because otherwise they will just sell to shops. Also, they will inflate all economy, because they will be able to just craft some SSC with mats costing few times less than sell price to stores, and stores WILL buy everything they will be able to make. If it's true you should fix it before this brokes everything and set the buy price back to retail before it's too late.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:33 pm 
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mnv wrote:
Dude, they can sell SSC to shops for 50a each? Are you nuts? This is way too much, it is alot more than the price to make SSC (around 16a/each) so it will inflate the prices of SSC to normal players, it were always like 25-30a each in all servers, now it will have to be more than 50a, because otherwise they will just sell to shops. Also, they will inflate all economy, because they will be able to just craft some SSC with mats costing few times less than sell price to stores, and stores WILL buy everything they will be able to make. If it's true you should fix it before this brokes everything and set the buy price back to retail before it's too late.


Damn those english skills...

Anyway, I think the selling price to a normal shop for a SSC is still the same.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:38 pm 
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No, but you have vitality herbs, you have kamaloka, you have daily quests,etc. Easier to lvl up until lvl 76+,oc at high lvls gracia becomes harder because there is a lot of things to do.


still, keeping vit up on a 5x g final server is impossible unless u have vit items from donation


Also, lvling on a 15x IL is kinda faster because u can just pull 24/7 trains in fog with a destro and plvl any char u want (u just need cov and tallum set).

Only the initial rush is faster on a 5x g final server.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:50 pm 
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Agree to low the SS price for shop selling, because if you have recharger's u can farm lot of milions that way, 24/7 crafting-selling grocery :o , and ssc 100a what about bss D/C 200a?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:49 pm 
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I think you missunderstood me or I just type it wrong, you can sell it by trade to players at about 50+ and still get benefits from that.Grocery selling price is the original one lol.

SSC-Price at Grocery 100 Adena, Sell Price at Grocery 7 adena
BSSC-Price at Grocery 180 Adena, Sell Price at Grocery 45 adena.


Btw, nice to see that even if years have passed there is still boring ppl that come into the post of a server (that is not maded to get any money) to trash talk and show everybody that "Es el rey del mambo".

Like if you invite me to a party into your house, and I start to talk about how bad your party is and how bad your decoration is, If im trying to give you some free fun, show gratitude or almost dont say nothing.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:51 pm 
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mariolinho wrote:
Catbot wrote:
No, but you have vitality herbs, you have kamaloka, you have daily quests,etc. Easier to lvl up until lvl 76+,oc at high lvls gracia becomes harder because there is a lot of things to do.


still, keeping vit up on a 5x g final server is impossible unless u have vit items from donation


Also, lvling on a 15x IL is kinda faster because u can just pull 24/7 trains in fog with a destro and plvl any char u want (u just need cov and tallum set).

Only the initial rush is faster on a 5x g final server.


Yes but you can make trains on x1 or x15, doesnt matter.You can also train hellbound on gracia.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:07 pm 
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Catbot wrote:
I think you missunderstood me or I just type it wrong, you can sell it by trade to players at about 50+ and still get benefits from that.Grocery selling price is the original one lol.

SSC-Price at Grocery 100 Adena, Sell Price at Grocery 7 adena
BSSC-Price at Grocery 180 Adena, Sell Price at Grocery 45 adena.


Btw, nice to see that even if years have passed there is still boring ppl that come into the post of a server (that is not maded to get any money) to trash talk and show everybody that "Es el rey del mambo".

Like if you invite me to a party into your house, and I start to talk about how bad your party is and how bad your decoration is, If im trying to give you some free fun, show gratitude or almost dont say nothing.


Phew. Good then :) I think if that was real, 50a/each from selling to shop, that could have ruined the server, even if that looks like just a minor mistake. Wanted to point that out so it wouldn't happen.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:04 pm 
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Slightly less than an hour to go =)


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:13 pm 
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We are ONLINE now,
Come and check us!! :)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:19 pm 
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We are ONLINE now,
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:28 am 
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Catbot wrote:
Yes but you can make trains on x1 or x15, doesnt matter.You can also train hellbound on gracia.


we were talking about the initial rush and the first week of the server, at this point u will never be able to farm in HB or train in fog with a single destro at 76+

As we know the frenzy was changed in g final, it has longer reuse and the dmg is scaled in a different way, that makes training the full necro spot impossible compared to interlude where u needed only a B weapon+ and Tallum set for a nonstop training session.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:40 pm 
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mariolinho wrote:
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Yes but you can make trains on x1 or x15, doesnt matter.You can also train hellbound on gracia.


we were talking about the initial rush and the first week of the server, at this point u will never be able to farm in HB or train in fog with a single destro at 76+

As we know the frenzy was changed in g final, it has longer reuse and the dmg is scaled in a different way, that makes training the full necro spot impossible compared to interlude where u needed only a B weapon+ and Tallum set for a nonstop training session.



I must to agree with you. Frenzy was a very different history. And Il was faster with the right setup.


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