im talking from experience. i cant tell what server has this feature. but few years ago ive seen a lot of them, you talking about that if its insanely hard thing to do lol

Thats because I havent seen any server with prohibited dualbox (=no boxes allowed) in my entire life. And trust me, Ive searched the internet through and through. So unless you have some kind of evidence, Ill keep referring to this idea as very rare and (almost) never used.

Even if you were right and some servers used to exist, they sure as hell dont exist now. Nevertheless, I will be more than happy if you (or anyone else) prove(s) me wrong. I will applaud to any server owner that decided to take the path of no box and also give you (or anyone else) credit for taking the time to find such servers. After all, the main purpose of this thread is to have a decent server which all no box fans can enjoy. Further RPG improvements suggested by me are welcome of course, but it will be best to take it one step at a time.

Well there's one server I can think of - https://l2ashenvale.com.ar/foro/showthr ... er-Classic

It's Classic chronicle but unfortunately not much english info can be found, but in server's description it says "Permitimos 1 cliente por PC (single box)"

It says 'por PC' so I'm not sure how they handle it when people just use PC+laptop.

Also it appears to be mostly spanish (portuguese?) so it's probably not very good for the 'RPG' anyway as you'd have troubles finding party, unless you speak that language.

But the more we talk about it the more I like the idea of pure 1-box policy, aka GMs actively hunting down the bots... Right now there're no mid rate Classic chronicle server as far as I know, so maybe if someone tried to open a Classic ~25x server with 1 PC per player, I think it could have a fair success.

Seems that everyone defines the word box otherwise . But I suppose by 1 box policy you mean just the main char without any other support chars logged per person? AKA one window=one box? For me 1 box allowed means one main char + one buffer (buffer=box). What I want is 0 boxes allowed. But then again, I think you mean the same by saying 1 box policy.

Anyway, if they say 1 client per PC, that clearly means if you have more than one PC, you can have more boxes .

dude there is some programs that can let you deny all protection, and still box, so i doubt that would stop boxers from that first players must change, then game would be revived, also russians dont know how to play without 3 4 box buffers, maybe try searching for international servers, where ppl enjoy game, not just rush and use tons of bots, boxes.

Players wont change until server owners start enforcing less boxes IMO. As soon as having a box is bannable offense, people will think twice before doing it, and even if many escape the punishment, everyone gets the message and sooner or later, no-boxers will start reporting boxers as much as they do bots nowadays. After all, its their experience the boxers are ruining after all, and humans are allergic to being at disadvantage because others break the rules (cheat).

Now dont get me wrong, I dont want all L2 servers to be box-free, but you know, at least a quarter or half of the servers should be no box zones, where RPG really exists.

PS Speaking of many box servers, I just read one server description saying "3 box from the start, but you can pay (with real money) for more" and "as soon as population drops, boxes will be unlimited". What the hell? How can anyone enjoy such server? Whats the freakin point of this? Why even bother playing multiplayer when you have all classes yourself and have them all in one party and also control them all? Again, Im not against people who enjoy this kind of thing, but I hate the concept and find it nonsense. Basically Im like:

i agree with you mate, i was same mentality like 3 4 years ago, when l2 was starting to die second time. but we think about utopia, im actually happy that some big servers opened gracia final low rates sadly rpg plan of merging it with h5 is beyond stupid ;\ need to wait for dex now or some other project, and standalone gracia final

Yeah that's a dream, Tunner... These days, 98% of big servers open just for cash, admins don't hesitate to close the server after 6 months when rushers leave and the cost of running > donations... Averia, Tales, Mid, Blaze, you name it.

It's really sad... There're so little honest servers out there that are opened for players... Dawn or L2Classic Club are examples of server that raised and keep up pretty large community for >1 year without having the cash-only policy, but there're so little of them the chance of finding a decent pure RPG server are pretty much nonexistent.

Though if I was to talk about potential server like this in the future, one of the projects I've mentioned above (L2 Classic Club) will be opening a new H5 lowrate server in January next year.

The thing is, the admins are amazing and they are very open to players' suggestion. I'm pretty sure if a decent ammount of people supported the idea (which they could because it's a 'classic' project after all), I'm pretty sure devs would've supported the idea.

They claim to have OFF files which would've made the whole thing even more amazing So anyway if you want to check it out, head out here: http://l2classic.club/forum/index.php?/ ... ub-future/

Speaking of these servers, I really like Dawn, its basically my home base or whatever you call it. Every time the shiny hugely populated servers disappoint me, I head back there and see that its the same or even better than before. Jeez, not they dont even have in game donations. Just T-shirts and stuff. I dont understand why the server isnt populated that much. Would be much easier for the staff to make my idea if they server wasnt half empty (or half full ) .

Anyway, Ill check that server you mentioned.

basically because people mindset nowadays is: server old = can't compete.

people on Dawn is really bad at PVP and teaming up. If any decent clan joins the server with 4 parties, in a couple of months could dominate the server, but they keep with the argument of "can't compete"




btw, about your signature, I think that's what everyone is looking for

c6 x5 is really boring to play if server is empty untill 60+ lvl, how many online during evenings?

Well at low lvls you just do raids (if ur lucky), and then your clan mates power level you real fast, so not much of a boredom then. But yeah, if you play alone, its freakin annoying.

I mean let's be honest, L2 has never been too forgiving for solo players... Ever since the game started, party people feast on full tables and solo players just eat the crumbs and bones that fell of the table, that's nothing new

to be honest, even if im hardcore oldschool player, c4 c6 gracia is most fun for me, even h5 is considered new, im not even talking about goddes and all that crap in global, but even playing new or old chronicles, online if very important, i actually played in shilien server during start free global, played tons of times in h5, just cause its fun to play when server is new, all starts from nothing, and you can compete what you achieve versus others, no need to play 6 months o r years to have chance, i love first 1 2 months after server start, its most fun atm for me, in past i didnt cared, i just derped around newbie zones, 20-40 lvl later, and experienced game, now i want many players, to party, to raid, to do stuff to get money, l2 has tons of activities, that many rushers to top lvl miss, for example many dont know that in every chronicle you can make hudreds of milions kk just by fishing pocf, white fishes, quests of boxes and stuff and its just one thing, but if no one will buy it or no one cares about it in dead server, where is the fun? i will play in rpg club no matter what, ofc i would preffer gracia standalone, but who cares, when server has 10-15 k on, im in

If you want a real rpg type server then play l2shrine. There is no bots or scripts like on all the other big money servers. There is no donate. It is long term server, there is no no lifers. All the server hoppers have already left. Population is stable and slowly growing. I think on launch there was 200 on forum now 800+

This is not some server that will be down in few months, they have another server that is up and running still with only a few players on it for 4+ years. Lets face it even these big servers will close when they are not profitable for owners to not remake a newone. Average lifespan 1-3 months and on some rare occasions 6 months. Top 30% of players all using bots, scripts etc...Try get 83 in like a month on 4x rate legit no cakes...now look on e global