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 Post subject: Sps Sub skills
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:27 am 
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Any sugestions plx?

i think i will go with : Counter Mana steal and counter spirit ,atm

Someone know what chances have those skill to trigger?

And how much enhaced passives/passives i can have +its bonus plx :P


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 Post subject: Re: Sps Sub skills
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:39 pm 
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I think the best would be

Enchanter: counter celestial
Knight: counter UD
Summoner: that thing that gives u Matk.and cast speed

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 Post subject: Re: Sps Sub skills
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:47 pm 
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UD is pretty useful in you're on one of those multi-stacking buff servers, especially for aoe'ing, but not with spellsinger. Go for empower instead. Summoner spirit is good, and maybe hp/cp increase rather than celestial. Personally, I don't like relying on CS, cuz you sort of get used to waiting for it to activate, and then you get yourself into trouble with a whole bunch of mobs. You don't even have vamp claw or dark vortex to keep your hp up.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:02 pm 
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EUPHORIA wrote:
cs is good as shit in pvp

Tell that to my WC sub :P

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 Post subject: Re: Sps Sub skills
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:14 pm 
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So all agree in CS and That thing from summoner for m.atak and cast :)

I ask specially for pvp

And what about those pasives? All to m.atack?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:01 pm 
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RaginWave wrote:
So all agree in CS and That thing from summoner for m.atak and cast :)

I ask specially for pvp

And what about those pasives? All to m.atack?
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 Post subject: Re: Sps Sub skills
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:42 am 
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i need a info about sub skills and i cant seem to find the answer
i have om main adv and my subs are swm and he so far. i have learned sub skills from swm but not from he (not even emergent). i want to make a pala sub for ud skill. if i take the sub to lvl 75 learn ud and del my pala sub will the skill be remain or will be gone onace my sub is del. i want to mae my last sub a destro and i need trigger haste.
so basically:
- swm 2 emergent 1 celestian
- sagi no skill
- pala 2 emergent 1 ud (del sub)
- destro 2 emergent 1 haste
can i do this?

ps if i use emergent to learn just 1 skill (p atk) on each lvl i get the same boost or is lower each time?
ps 2 if i am offtopic is because i didnt want to make another thread

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 Post subject: Re: Sps Sub skills
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:59 am 
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Your skill certs won't be deleted if you delete the subclass that you got the skills from... to get rid of subclass skill cert you've got to pay 10 mill adena to the avant garde npc. So yeah, what you've suggested should work.
I don't understand what ur asking in the first p.s. though.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:42 am 
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if i want to use all me 6 Certificate - Emergent Ability to boost my p atk so for each Certificate - Emergent Ability added the bonus is the same? cos i heard that with each Certificate - Emergent Ability added the bonus is lower. i didnt pay attention when i added my first 2 Certificate - Emergent Ability so i dont have to waste them is the bonus is smaller
ty 4 answers
any1 has made a sub just for skills and then del and add a new one from witch didnt learn anything?

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 Post subject: Re: Sps Sub skills
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:46 am 
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if its % of p att shouldnt u get more ? honestly id go for p def no matter what char i have.u can check on inferno server opened by nekys.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:29 pm 
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EUPHORIA wrote:
its not much honestly

yup
Great Physical Defence Сильно увеличивает p.def +29 p.def
Physical Defence Увеличивает p.def +11 p.def

this is better imo
Great Magic Defence (+50 m.def)


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:07 pm 
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EUPHORIA wrote:
i go mdef lvl 6 and master mdef on wr and its okay :D

thats kewl rly


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:50 pm 
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EUPHORIA wrote:
i know
im amazing

Me too.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:55 am 
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EUPHORIA wrote:
i go mdef lvl 6 and master mdef on wr and its okay :D


i use this on my th as well:D

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:38 pm 
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++? how many

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