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| Author: | background [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why DC Robe and not Maje Robe for Bishop? |
ive got a bd and i am making a bish as a subclass. even tough maj robe looks better for my dark elf, i was wondering why everyone uses dc instead of maj robe.maybe 4 the bonus of speedy, but still, maj robe got +8 mp recovering rate,thing that maybe its better for my next healer. pls help me to decide wich armor is better for a healer. yours background bd 78/ bish low lvl xD |
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| Author: | mibustas [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:40 pm ] |
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its not 8 its 8 % which is 2 mana per tick so it sux/and dc gives more cast/lowers the posibility to cancel ur magic and is easier to make thats why dc not mj...in my opinion tallum robe set is the best for bishop... |
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| Author: | Hiko [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:40 pm ] |
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Yes i hate peoples which take Dc for Bishop only becaus it cost more. They think it cost more it is better but it is no true. Bishop is best in talum set, a lot of peoples say just 1 crit from archer to talum and bishop down but look on DC same P def just have bonus to P def in % same as low C karmian xD but show me armor set for mage with M def bonus. Bishop is good antimage and with talum he is real problem for mage and still little problem for archer but in DC he is no problem for noone. |
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| Author: | GoDs3nD [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:04 pm ] |
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Hiko wrote: Yes i hate peoples which take Dc for Bishop only becaus it cost more. They think it cost more it is better but it is no true. Bishop is best in talum set, a lot of peoples say just 1 crit from archer to talum and bishop down but look on DC same P def just have bonus to P def in % same as low C karmian xD but show me armor set for mage with M def bonus. Bishop is good antimage and with talum he is real problem for mage and still little problem for archer but in DC he is no problem for noone.
i see tre truth here:) tallum is rly best set-->cheap(hardest part=gloves recipe) u can get upper and lower parts recipes while questing(exploration of giants cave) and its good for supporters the supa armor is ofc mj:) just look at the bonuses! they rock! dc set is for noobs.. lowers ur men and etc.. its just better for ur mage set.. go for mj! |
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| Author: | Icarus [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:57 pm ] |
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mibustas wrote: its not 8 its 8 % which is 2 mana per tick so it sux/and dc gives more cast/lowers the posibility to cancel ur magic and is easier to make thats why dc not mj...in my opinion tallum robe set is the best for bishop...
Dc robe gives a very small decrease in cast cancel rate so it's irrelevant. Mj robe is better because mages are sensible to stun, and stun to a healer can be fatal. The best set for a healer is either mj robe or ma set. |
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| Author: | nonelikeme [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:12 pm ] |
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for bishop u must choose majestic set in oly.....when u not in oly chose tallum or dc....dc gives more casting sp./speed than majestic or MA and lower ur m.def |
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| Author: | mariosxx [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:16 pm ] |
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Icarus wrote: The best set for a healer is either mj robe or ma set. lol k
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| Author: | darkdreadroute [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:29 pm ] |
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mariosxx wrote: Icarus wrote: The best set for a healer is either mj robe or ma set. lol klol k what? |
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| Author: | Icarus [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:40 pm ] |
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Nah, leave him, he doesn't know that the ma set gives not only stun resist, but also heavy anti-cast interruption chance. |
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| Author: | nonelikeme [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:49 pm ] |
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i agree with majestic vs stuners and tallum vs mages but realy i dont see why to use MA..50% small chance to get interupted when cast dont convince me..dont forget dc rullz vs heavy armor fighters |
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| Author: | mariosxx [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:48 pm ] |
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Yes throw ur C speed and reuse on heal's/rez for interrupt chance. I have never ever ever ever seen MA on healer. Its plain dumb. Heal is rly fast on good buffs. You will rarely get interrupted on heal. I dont see a reason for that. On topic, Tallum is easiest to make. -2 int aint a prob for healer. M def helps too. Good one. MJ is good for stun resistance and more mp and more p def than tallum. I wouldn't make MJ for buffer tho. I'd keep him in tallum. |
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| Author: | Icarus [ Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:02 am ] |
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In mass pvp believe me, if you don't have epics you're dead without stun resistance. Ma is a good choice on oly. I know that it's bad it only gives 1 wit, but tell me, in oly your casting speed is like in buffed combat? No. It's not. That's when you need anti spell interruption chance, especially if it's interlude or lower. And i wouldn't choose tallum as an oly set tbh. I mean... Poison bleed resistance vs stun resistance. I'm not saying dc is bad, in oly we assume you have some epics on you, so you shouldn't get stunned that often, plus that dc gives para resistance, which is one of the fatalities for a healer. @nonelikeme. Why is dc good vs heavy fighters? Because you can run better? Check again, ma set gives speed too. And vs heavy fighters it's vital that you have some pdef on you -> ma robe is in front. |
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| Author: | GoDs3nD [ Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:36 pm ] |
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ok nabz.. stop flaming->this is the way to shut ur mouth haters.. MA set M. Atk +17% (higher chance to trance) Movement Speed +7 (dc set hah?) Casting Cancel Probability -50% (wth?with concentration i maybe wont be interrupted at all) Weight Limit +5759 WIT +1 (this is ur cast bonus) INT +1 (ur matk bonus) MEN -2 (well u need to drop something) Stun resistance +50% (majestic set?this is the solution) MJ set MP +240 Casting Spd. +15% MP Regeneration +8%(oh yes u rly need that 8% mp reg during fight..) Stun Resistance +50%(very usefull) MEN +1(ehm.. not a big change at all...) INT -1(not a big change 2 but drops ur landin rate of trance:)) DC set P. Def. +8%(huge difference!NOT) Casting Spd. +15% (ok.. we know about this already..) Speed +7 (MA set has it 2..) Small decrease in chance of spell interruption (ma has 50% not small...) Paralysis Resistance +50%(ffs.. necro wont be able to para u.. ur trance is way faster) WIT +2(good cast spd bonus) MEN -2( drop ur mp and mdef:)) MA is combined dc+mj as u see... ma rox asses..As u see icarus is right..i support his opinion. |
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| Author: | razveck [ Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:47 pm ] |
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yes, MA is good, but u dont get a lot of casting, plus in oly u use only spiritshots, so the trance wont be THAT fast. In a bishop I would rather go in IC and a dagger. Then change to tallum robe or dc robe to heal. This is the setup I see in many bishops. Others use draconic or tallum heavy/maj heavy, basicaly, Ive seen ppl using all kinds of sets in oly. Yes, some used robes, but those were dead meat, since WOW THEIR TRANCE IS SUPADUPAOMGWTFPNZRFAST!!!!!, but after they trance, what? What do u suggest? Make a hit and keep him tranced the rest of the match so u do more damage? Thats too boring imo ^^ |
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| Author: | GoDs3nD [ Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:49 pm ] |
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no matter bopring or no ma gives u 17% more matk so ur trances are slower BUT effectiveness isa higher+ u have acumen as selfbuff + u have btb as self buff + u have celestial shield if something goes wrong imo first of all u need to take away ur oponents mana..thats why bish>glad! |
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