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| Author: | hiphophip [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:46 am ] |
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First, str increases crit chance right? Second, does p.atk affects crit chance? Third, how about crit rate? Does it affect the chance of getting a crit skill? I was thinking if it's worth it to get the p.atk bonus as a subclass bonus or be gone instead to m.def. Thanks. |
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| Author: | razveck [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:11 am ] |
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I think that STR influences Crit Skills, but not P.atk. STR increases P.atk, but the crit skill chance doesnt come from P.atk, but yes from STR. This means that Might, CoV (PoF) and other buffs that increase P.atk dont affect skill critical rate. I dont think that the Critical Rate influences, thats why all gladis go -DEX +STR 
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| Author: | Ruud44 [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:47 pm ] |
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razveck wrote: I think that STR influences Crit Skills, but not P.atk.
STR increases P.atk, but the crit skill chance doesnt come from P.atk, but yes from STR. This means that Might, CoV (PoF) and other buffs that increase P.atk dont affect skill critical rate. I dont think that the Critical Rate influences, thats why all gladis go -DEX +STR then why do they go for tsuruki*tsuruki for b grade? PS. not an expert in gladis 
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| Author: | razveck [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:43 pm ] |
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yes, Im not an expert, but I know some things, and I know why gladis use that weapon: BECAUSE WHEN A GLADIATOR IS KILLING MONSTERS, HE CANT USE SKILLS ALL THE TIME, OR HE WOULD RUN OUT OF MANA IN A BLINK, SO HE MUST RELY ON NORMAL HITS MOST OF THE TIME, THATS WHY HE USES A FOCUS WEAPON, SO HE CAN MAKE MORE CRITS = MORE DAMAGE, FASTER KILLS, LESS MP USED WITH SKILLS. 
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| Author: | Ruud44 [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:11 pm ] |
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razveck wrote: yes, Im not an expert, but I know some things, and I know why gladis use that weapon:
BECAUSE WHEN A GLADIATOR IS KILLING MONSTERS, HE CANT USE SKILLS ALL THE TIME, OR HE WOULD RUN OUT OF MANA IN A BLINK, SO HE MUST RELY ON NORMAL HITS MOST OF THE TIME, THATS WHY HE USES A FOCUS WEAPON, SO HE CAN MAKE MORE CRITS = MORE DAMAGE, FASTER KILLS, LESS MP USED WITH SKILLS. well i thought that needed it for pvp too :/ |
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| Author: | guzeris [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:03 pm ] |
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ruud when u pvp whit glad u dont use skills just normal hits like pve oOO i see .. your so smarty pants no skill needed for u in pvp just using normal hits nice |
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| Author: | Lhyno [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:14 pm ] |
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Gladiator is nothing w/o it's skills. It's like destro w/o frenzy and guts. In pvp it's automatic that you use skills as much as you can and coz of the lot of skills she/he has, she/he don't need dex, just str and con. Dex is for normal hitz. Also, no shields, no evasion, spd is in sonic move. Dex is only good for pve for glad. And yes, skill's critchance is based on str. |
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| Author: | Ruud44 [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:34 pm ] |
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guzeris wrote: ruud when u pvp whit glad u dont use skills just normal hits like pve oOO i see .. your so smarty pants no skill needed for u in pvp just using normal hits nice
im not so noob in gladis  ))
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| Author: | Icarus [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:03 pm ] |
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Str also influences patk, razveck. Gladi in pvp is a skill guy. It's the rule for many classes. Take the dagger with no skills... Not good. Take the archer with no skills... Not that bad, see? It highly depends on the mastery. |
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| Author: | Ruud44 [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:48 pm ] |
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Icarus wrote: Str also influences patk, razveck.
Gladi in pvp is a skill guy. It's the rule for many classes. Take the dagger with no skills... Not good. Take the archer with no skills... Not that bad, see? It highly depends on the mastery. not on the mastery... but on if that class has skills that make crits... and what power these skills have compared to the p atk... |
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| Author: | Icarus [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:56 pm ] |
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You got it wrong... I never said put str on glad just for the patk. Str is put for skill crt chance. |
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| Author: | hiphophip [ Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:39 am ] |
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Strength - Yes P. Atk - No How about crit rate? Like the critical rate you get from dual bonuses, focus buff, subclass passive skill. Thank you and I really appreciate your thoughts! |
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| Author: | Lhyno [ Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:56 am ] |
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Normal crit rate won't take effect, that's why there's -dex dyes on gladis. |
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| Author: | hiphophip [ Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:06 am ] |
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Lhyno wrote: Normal crit rate won't take effect, that's why there's -dex dyes on gladis.
Ok, so getting the normal passive increase critical rate and rogue subclass skills won't do much in PVP. The only option I guess is go m.def. Thanks for the enlightenment. |
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| Author: | md [ Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:11 am ] |
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hiphophip wrote: Lhyno wrote: Normal crit rate won't take effect, that's why there's -dex dyes on gladis. Ok, so getting the normal passive increase critical rate and rogue subclass skills won't do much in PVP. The only option I guess is go m.def. Thanks for the enlightenment. so if i have more mdef i will not get critted so much (i got crited like 3 times last time vs gladi ~1k):oops: needed better jewels anyway.. 10x |
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