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| Author: | k0k0z [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Palladin |
OK, i played SK, great debuffer, nice def wonderful drain abilities and so on + lovley cubics. Played DA, all that i like is the hamstring, drain sux, and i just cant get around it. Played TK, love attraction cubic, helps to keep mp stable for more hates, still combat abilities are the lowest and hmm, its somehow forgotten class as i see it. So what about a pally? What EQ would you sugesst lv 40, 52, 61, dont talk about S gr and boss jevles, its a 4x serv and im new. What setups for pve, pvp (if possible) main weapon, secondary weapon, should i stick to blunts or swords and try for crits not + 4 acu, and ofc what dyes you suggest. Where to lvl? + a question, holy weapon + holy weapon from pally skills stack? Thx for ya answers. |
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| Author: | asker [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:37 pm ] |
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one thing i know for sure... use only swords becous of the angelic icon buf , paly is quit hard to play with becous the best damge only to undead mobs ..  if you kill other there will be like 100-130 dmg.. it sux.. and if you with party then its really fun 
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| Author: | GoDs3nD [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:28 pm ] |
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so ofcourse pali is no good solo char cuz of all tank classes he is most passive-SK well u know why,TK well u know again why,DA u again u know the answer...but paly... he doesnt have nothing offensive except his Nuke attack but anyway its not usefull if u dont have mp pots...u have shitloadz of def and hp but patk/atk spd etc is low so u can work about that 1.This option is for u if u solo(i tell ya again u r best tanker so better find PT) is BW hvy set and +haste/focus weapon...ofcourse u wont be normal tank cuz BW set is not for tankers 2.Option choose normal tankers equipment-doom hvy + hp weapon Dyes-imo u shouldnt use dyes cuz if u get +str u have to drop ur dex(u have low dex anyway.. so its non-sence) or ur con(this is worst choice cuz u will lose much HP/hpreg/stun resistance cuz of ur high base CON) and sam is with +dex..If u want to be normal tank choose +con-str(dont lower dex it influences ur shield def rate) and +wit-int cuz u anyway dont land curses but u have great heals so ur casting spd will help u a bit.. If u r gona be "DD" choose only +wit If u want u can lower ur con but imo u wont be tank then... For a grade equipment: 1.DD-hmm tallum maybe or MJ heavy set(mj has resist stun+pdef+it adds str and etc etc and tallum has 8% atk spd and lower p def) 2.Normal tanker-here u can have 2 options again a)NM heavy-best set for u it adds some hp to u and etc etc b)DC heavy set-it should be used ONLY when u have "epics"-boss jewels so the poor 4%bonus hp from heals rises and ur DC will be usefull Weapon:ofcourse dark legions edge:D with the SA u like..again choose from those 2 options(dd/normal tank) S grade-no choices.. IC heavy set and for weapon..forgotten blade(focus either hp) Farming spots:once again i say u r welcome to any partyes cuz u r pure tank with shitloadz of hp so 1.Get party to catacombs or somewhere else(be sure u can QUEST there cuz u r not good solo char and u dont finish ur quests easy.. so pt will help you) 2.Solo 40-50 u can solo at Death pass teritory(shackles and later go deeper to the sceletons and etc..there is also quest 1000years of lamenation or smth like that-reward:adena/materials) another option is the pirats(devils) isle(u need to swim to the underground entrance) but mobs are very very hard with x4 x5 hp if im not mistaking 50-60 hm..cemetery region-those shackle-like undeads..well i think u know what im talking about.. 60-70 hm.. devastated castle area-dooms..much dooms.. doom guards doom soldiers etc etc.. those are undead.. after 70 its useless to try soloing cuz anyway u r so0o not-DD and its gona be very boring.. better find pt(i think u will have surely clan till that lvl) for weaponary maybe i forgot to tell ya BUT blunts(1 handed) are great choice cuz undeadz have weakpoint blunts(as far as i know..) but ofcourse u should have sword weapon for ur angelic icon!!but till u get the AI ull be better with blunt |
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| Author: | Wegotas [ Tue May 06, 2008 3:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | palli palli palli |
paladin is good at the party(when he has buf acu or pot) it can to help when hell comes out and healers cant just heal everybody, ofcourse some ppl saiing that he is worst at soloing, its not if you have pots, just look that you have much of SS an BSPS to heal yourself and you will never dye, just stun a mod and heal yourself
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| Author: | Icarus [ Tue May 06, 2008 6:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: palli palli palli |
Paladin is the only tanker class that can effectively SOLO at high levels, if he has some buffs. Angelic icon ftw! It's incredible with some focus weapon and vampiric buffs. You can actually solo in catacombs, ofc, for a short time, but it is something. Paladin is a very good tank, his defence capabilities are good, and his damage output is very poor. If you activate angelic icon, his defence capabilities become very good and his damage output very good as well. |
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| Author: | GoDs3nD [ Tue May 06, 2008 7:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: palli palli palli |
Icarus wrote: Paladin is the only tanker class that can effectively SOLO at high levels, if he has some buffs. Angelic icon ftw! It's incredible with some focus weapon and vampiric buffs. You can actually solo in catacombs, ofc, for a short time, but it is something.
Paladin is a very good tank, his defence capabilities are good, and his damage output is very poor. If you activate angelic icon, his defence capabilities become very good and his damage output very good as well. u r right.. but the "downtime" is > the time u r imba:) u r powah till u ahve AI... no doubt paladin is rly hard nigga with bunch of hp/cp/resist etc etc.. but still imo SK is best soloer..hope now he will be little more plused since SK doesnt have uber skill like AI |
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| Author: | GoDs3nD [ Tue May 06, 2008 10:16 pm ] |
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hmm the description says that makes u imba only with sword weapon.. ive never tryed with dagger(i have only about 6 months exp with pala and it was not my main char) will the AI work?expl please |
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| Author: | Icarus [ Wed May 07, 2008 6:20 pm ] |
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GoDs3nD wrote: hmm the description says that makes u imba only with sword weapon.. ive never tryed with dagger(i have only about 6 months exp with pala and it was not my main char) will the AI work?expl please
No, he means that the cooldown (reuse) of the AI will be less because of the given attack speed. When you activate AI make sure you have song of champion and renewal. Drastically decreases the reuse. Sure, use a rsk haste wep to get a max profit. |
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| Author: | GoDs3nD [ Wed May 07, 2008 10:26 pm ] |
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u do this if im not mistaken: 1)go belowe 30% 2)equip dagger 3)activate AI 4)equip sword ive never tryed to change my weapons(well at lol-servers i had the highest lvl PA-80 but at low rates i had max ~61 its too boring 4 me:Dand i was kinda adenaless so couldnt afford nothin more than my doom+yaksa HP) but if u change weapons in ur hand the AI wont disappear? |
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| Author: | Icarus [ Thu May 08, 2008 3:36 pm ] |
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No, because angelic icon isn't made for just one weapon. It can be used less effectively with other weapons too. Angelic Icon P.Def. +50%, M.Def. +50%, Accuracy +6, Speed +30, Atk. Spd. +30%, HP restored from heals -80% With Fist or any kind of Blunt: Critical Damage +100% With Polearm or any kind of Sword: Critical +100 With other weapons, only Speed is raised. If you don't have a fist, a blunt, a sword (double handed too, but not duals) or a pole, you will only get speed +30. That really sucks. But it won't cancel the buff. |
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| Author: | GoDs3nD [ Thu May 08, 2008 8:46 pm ] |
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ok i understand its just like frienzy thanx for explaining
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| Author: | calcifer [ Sun May 11, 2008 6:47 pm ] |
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well, SK is better in soloing and worse in tanking since they are the tankers with the lowest CON.. paladins are great in tanking coz they got aegis stance.. they also have gay heals and they can also make their partymates suk their hp. many paladins pop out in our server. some use ava robe set and over enchanted homun or mystic weapons and train at FOD with holy strikes and some slaps. offensive tankers: DA, SK defensive/support tankers: paladin, TK but all i can say is: "tankers are hard to train..  "
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| Author: | Icarus [ Sun May 11, 2008 7:53 pm ] |
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calcifer wrote: well, SK is better in soloing and worse in tanking since they are the tankers with the lowest CON..
paladins are great in tanking coz they got aegis stance.. they also have gay heals and they can also make their partymates suk their hp. many paladins pop out in our server. some use ava robe set and over enchanted homun or mystic weapons and train at FOD with holy strikes and some slaps. offensive tankers: DA, SK defensive/support tankers: paladin, TK but all i can say is: "tankers are hard to train.. "Not exactly. Sk is better in tanking because hp isn't a factor, the defence is the factor. When tanking you always have a healer by your side. Guys like you should really understand that AEGIS STANCE IS NOTHING when compared to the AEGIS PASSIVE. 1. DA isn't offensive. 2. Paladin is not support, he's just an emergency healer and he is an offensive tank. |
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| Author: | jak_cs84 [ Tue May 13, 2008 3:34 am ] |
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Icarus wrote: calcifer wrote: well, SK is better in soloing and worse in tanking since they are the tankers with the lowest CON.. paladins are great in tanking coz they got aegis stance.. they also have gay heals and they can also make their partymates suk their hp. many paladins pop out in our server. some use ava robe set and over enchanted homun or mystic weapons and train at FOD with holy strikes and some slaps. offensive tankers: DA, SK defensive/support tankers: paladin, TK but all i can say is: "tankers are hard to train.. "Not exactly. Sk is better in tanking because hp isn't a factor, the defence is the factor. When tanking you always have a healer by your side. Guys like you should really understand that AEGIS STANCE IS NOTHING when compared to the AEGIS PASSIVE. 1. DA isn't offensive. 2. Paladin is not support, he's just an emergency healer and he is an offensive tank. For Icarus: I disagree with the first. I 100% agree with the second. Can u explain plz, why in your opinion DA is not offensive? For Calcifer: And as for aegis i really think you overestimate it a little bit. And tell the paladins in your server that robes are good if u pvp 1vs.1 an sph/sps/sorc and not for pve (jesus god, he still remains a tank, not a mage) and to go for magic power SA, not acumen as their secondary weapon. |
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| Author: | Sekkurel [ Tue May 13, 2008 2:10 pm ] |
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jak_cs84 wrote: Icarus wrote: calcifer wrote: well, SK is better in soloing and worse in tanking since they are the tankers with the lowest CON.. paladins are great in tanking coz they got aegis stance.. they also have gay heals and they can also make their partymates suk their hp. many paladins pop out in our server. some use ava robe set and over enchanted homun or mystic weapons and train at FOD with holy strikes and some slaps. offensive tankers: DA, SK defensive/support tankers: paladin, TK but all i can say is: "tankers are hard to train.. "Not exactly. Sk is better in tanking because hp isn't a factor, the defence is the factor. When tanking you always have a healer by your side. Guys like you should really understand that AEGIS STANCE IS NOTHING when compared to the AEGIS PASSIVE. 1. DA isn't offensive. 2. Paladin is not support, he's just an emergency healer and he is an offensive tank. For Icarus: I disagree with the first. I 100% agree with the second. Can u explain plz, why in your opinion DA is not offensive? For Calcifer: And as for aegis i really think you overestimate it a little bit. And tell the paladins in your server that robes are good if u pvp 1vs.1 an sph/sps/sorc and not for pve (jesus god, he still remains a tank, not a mage) and to go for magic power SA, not acumen as their secondary weapon. agree with you bro DA is a combination of a summoner and tank and summoners are kinda offensive in my eyes and why the hell you need magic power ???? you will cast slow even if you use bsps and can get interupted while with acumen weapon you cast fast wit a little less in heal power but ur no bishop to cast uber heals your half tan half healer |
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