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Author:  Vawned [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:46 am ]
Post subject:  Wtf they did with Summoners?
Well, I think all summoners that played on C6 and are now on CT1 fell the fucking update.

Hell Yeah, summons don't steal any exp more!

BUT!


Crap on PvE.
Hiting 1/2 than before.
They're bullshit on pvp >.<
Hiting 1/3 or even 1/4 than before.

U hardly can kill a player in the same level as u now. =/
Author:  Icarus [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:03 am ]
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I don't think so. What server do you play on? If there was a summon that needed to be nerfed, that's the feline king because the warlock is imba if you compare to other summoners. Ps gets warrior bane, es gets mage bane, warlock gets, guess what, both.
Author:  Vawned [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:40 pm ]
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Icarus wrote:
I don't think so. What server do you play on? If there was a summon that needed to be nerfed, that's the feline king because the warlock is imba if you compare to other summoners. Ps gets warrior bane, es gets mage bane, warlock gets, guess what, both.


I play in a private 6x. Have a few bugs right, everybody knows that privates are not perfect.

I was question it in the server forum too. And someone post a quote from a retail forum:

Quote:
Q - Balis: Why were summoner's servitors PVP damage reduced, when other classes do more damage then our servitors could ever do, example Archers and Mages easily out damage us. Also no other class has ever had this done to them, why summoners?

A - When looking at the statistics, we saw that summoners had a big advantage over non-summoners in PvP. That is why we made this change.


>.<
Author:  mariosxx [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:12 am ]
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Summoners in C5 and after do -30% PvP damage compared to C4.
Never heard of some C5 ---> IL update that changed/removed it.
Summoners are Oly beasts as we all know.
But they kinda suck when it comes to real PvP.
Myself as a summoner (7x) my pet used to die in like 3-4 nukes
from CH buffed nukers.

It's just that NCSoft hate their players.
And they tend to make some classes not needed instead of
trying to balance the game a bit.
They nerfed archers by decreasing crit damage buffs efficiency
and adding archery resist songs/dances on T1, afaik.
But why the FUCK nerfing summoners? That's just dumb. xd
Author:  BigDaddyO [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Wtf they did with Summoners?
Vawned wrote:
Well, I think all summoners that played on C6 and are now on CT1 fell the fucking update.

Hell Yeah, summons don't steal any exp more!

BUT!


Crap on PvE.
Hiting 1/2 than before.
They're bullshit on pvp >.<
Hiting 1/3 or even 1/4 than before.

U hardly can kill a player in the same level as u now. =/


I never liked summoners, but 1/3 hiting in pvp :!: .... dude it's just unfair :!:
Author:  Vawned [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:31 pm ]
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Well, everybody on the server forums is asking about this nerf.
Some saying that on Interlude their summon hit 1k in Mages with DC Robe, and now they do only 300.

u.u

I saw difference too, on PvE, as I hit always 1k in Crypt Preacher (With Soulless lvl 74, self buffs) on Interlude, and now on CT1 I can hit only 600~700

This slowed so much my exping time. Even with summon don't stealing XP.

Later, in Omens, I can kill 4 mobs, before the first respawn (Crypt Preacher, Lilim Slayer, Hephilim "What?" and that Stakato) Now I can kill only Crypt Preacher and after I kill Stakato, the Preacher already respawned.

=(
Author:  Lhyno [ Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:31 pm ]
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So, anyone who played on a good server: what is true from these?
Author:  GoDs3nD [ Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:40 pm ]
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aall these updates are CRAP total CRAP after i do everything possible on paradise ill just leave l2..forever!this game becomes another shitty copy of shitty wow...silkroad is waiting for me
Author:  razveck [ Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:45 pm ]
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reviving old topics ftw

btw, I dont notice any difference in summons oO could be just me, but maybe they didnt get that buig nerf, and summons STILL TAKE U EXP! with mew i get like 5k exp LOOOOL and with kai I get like 400k
Author:  GoDs3nD [ Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:48 pm ]
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keep in mind.. l2j ftw!
Author:  Lhyno [ Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:07 pm ]
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I just don't think so that they'll nerf it so much, they didn't have that much advantage against non.summoners. It's okay to nerf the frickin necros summon, coz it's annoying that necro can have the same summon, even more with better skills....

I'm lookin for an official stuff about this, where it's written by the playersonlyformoney soft.

Reviving old topics ftw, yes, but not when I remebered that I saw this somewhere and I had to use search for more than 10pages when I finally found it, because there's too many useless topic.
Author:  tsakpinis [ Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:04 pm ]
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maybe you play in bugged server?:S
Author:  Chainer [ Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:11 pm ]
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not necessary to play on bugged server... its just true
on C4 I could run into crowd of enemies at CS and kill 3 or 4 before they found what is hitting them... now I can hope for one if he is in lolparty without healer :x
I don't know exact numbers, but the attack power has decreased a lot... in fact summoner can kill players only on Olympiad or if they are much lower lvl
Author:  Lhyno [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:01 am ]
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lvl 40 'true summons"
10% increase to Patk
20% increase to Matk
10% increase to Pdef
10% increase to Mdef
[soulless no longer makes "contract"]

nightshade
156% increase to Patk
75% increase to Pdef
60% increase to Mdef
6% Increrase to Speed

PS third class summon
HP: 25% increase
Pdef: 45% increase
Mdef: 20% increase
Acc: 10% increase
Eva: 10% increase
Crit: 10% increase

mech golem
+16% hp
+40% mattack

dark panther
+20% hp

http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php ... =4&fpart=1
:)
Author:  EternalPain [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:03 pm ]
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Lhyno wrote:
lvl 40 'true summons"
10% increase to Patk
20% increase to Matk
10% increase to Pdef
10% increase to Mdef
[soulless no longer makes "contract"]

nightshade
156% increase to Patk
75% increase to Pdef
60% increase to Mdef
6% Increrase to Speed

PS third class summon
HP: 25% increase
Pdef: 45% increase
Mdef: 20% increase
Acc: 10% increase
Eva: 10% increase
Crit: 10% increase

mech golem
+16% hp
+40% mattack

dark panther
+20% hp

http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php ... =4&fpart=1
:)



if this shit is true i think nightshade in catas is invicible now he a nice patk pdef mdef alot much HP :) self buffs DW focus Guidance hex/curse gloom its kinda of bishop its really nice
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