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Author:  galder2511 [ Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Gladiator tips
pls tell me what depend Gladiator's skill "Sonic blaster" p.atk or m.atk because not consume spiritshot but strike targer from distance.
Second question is about +6 set like brigandine, Composite, full plate
Which items i must enchant to +6 ?
1. Armor + helmet ?
2. Armor + helmet + shield? (gladiator not use shield) ?

Thanks
Author:  Auron [ Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:24 pm ]
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Al glad skills depend on P.attack.

Sets to +6 are from c5 and forward.

All items that make the set should be enchanted.
In the case of composite set= armor and helmet.
Karmian shirt pants and gloves.
full plate armor and helmet.
B sets All but shield
A sets all but shield
S sets all but shield
Author:  atlant448 [ Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:11 pm ]
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Sonic blaster is a fighter+s skill so u need patk for it and to use soulshots , archers use too ranged attack , and they use patk with them and mages use aura flare/burn (a melle atack) for which they use matk, so it isnt right that melee fight = patk , ranged fight = matk

i explain the set items enchants:
If u have brigadine tunic , gaiters and helmet u will get the effects of +5% pdef and +150max hp , if u use a brigadine shield too u will have the effects of +20 max hp more
With composite armor and helmet u get a effect like decrease body weight , with that u can carry more shots ,... and when u use composite shield u will have +5% mdef , which is good vs magic skills
With full plate armor and full plate helmet u will have +270 max hp and if u use full plate shield u will get the effects of +5% shield def too

if u are a gladi u will not use shiels cuz of duals
:wink:
Author:  Sasha_ [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:09 am ]
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[quote="Auron"]Al glad skills depend on P.attack.

This statement is not true at all . Gladiator / Duelist skill damage depend more then 90% of SoulShot effect . Make a test before you will start flame me , get a pair of S duals and get a pair of A grade duals with the same P.atk as S . And you will see that you will inflict higher damage with the S one's . Why ? Because of the SoulShot boost .
Author:  marilena [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:34 pm ]
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Sasha_ wrote:
Auron wrote:
Al glad skills depend on P.attack.

This statement is not true at all . Gladiator / Duelist skill damage depend more then 90% of SoulShot effect . Make a test before you will start flame me , get a pair of S duals and get a pair of A grade duals with the same P.atk as S . And you will see that you will inflict higher damage with the S one's . Why ? Because of the SoulShot boost .


yea i made a skill with dyes str +4 and the same skill with dye -str4 and it made the same damage gladiators skill doesnt have to do with his p atck im sure about it it matters only on regular atacks
Author:  PaaGRIO [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:40 pm ]
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marilena wrote:
Sasha_ wrote:
Auron wrote:
Al glad skills depend on P.attack.

This statement is not true at all . Gladiator / Duelist skill damage depend more then 90% of SoulShot effect . Make a test before you will start flame me , get a pair of S duals and get a pair of A grade duals with the same P.atk as S . And you will see that you will inflict higher damage with the S one's . Why ? Because of the SoulShot boost .


yea i made a skill with dyes str +4 and the same skill with dye -str4 and it made the same damage gladiators skill doesnt have to do with his p atck im sure about it it matters only on regular atacks


You are exactly right thats why in another topic about glads i posted a dye advice for all glads look in pvp section. About Sasha she already left the forum so dont expect any answer from him/her whatever. Fully develop glad can only lower his STR , not DEX or CON :)
Author:  marilena [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:11 pm ]
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BeAGentleman wrote:
Mengs are noob

If you play a server without GM shop then you prolly have to use normal atacks too

SO if you are retarded enough to go -9 to STR then you be a sh*thead in doing dmg ebcause glads don`t have high criticals.

If you want to be specificdead PaaGRIo then first tell him "i play on GM shop server so i can decrease my STR so i can relly only on skils" ok ?


loool man i just reported that fact because it is a litle odd and not so many people know it who said anything about -9 str???of course you will hit with regular attacks. if you just want to flame someone go to another forum because people here dont flame others
Author:  georgessj [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:27 pm ]
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6y old litle guys that use all the time words like noob s...thead retarted really should be in this forum and this game anyway thats the cost for palying such an awesome game that many people from 6 yold till 45 are playing it well about the dyes gladiator is a very uniqe player he doesnt have a standar role so you cant say he need this and this any player can make him diferent i play the gladi using all dyes for con its very good for pvp others play him with all dyes for dex and str very good for xp
Author:  PaaGRIO [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:54 pm ]
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BeAGentleman wrote:
Mengs are noob

If you play a server without GM shop then you prolly have to use normal atacks too

SO if you are retarded enough to go -9 to STR then you be a sh*thead in doing dmg ebcause glads don`t have high criticals.

If you want to be specificdead PaaGRIo then first tell him "i play on GM shop server so i can decrease my STR so i can relly only on skils" ok ?


Who gave u the impresion that +STR makes more crit at skills ? If this is so why do u put +DEX +CON -STR on daggers if their skills are depending on the crits. Do u even begin to imagine what u are speaking about.Skillmastery has nothing to do with skill crit rate. I have a TH,TY,OL on hindemith, I have chars in the most pvp private servers too so yea i played everywhere i hope that answers your question i wonder where do u mr.PRo play. And these dyes -8 str is as i told after u reach the max lvl when u dont need to XP only pvp (yes i use them on private pvp servers too)
Author:  VyckaV [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:01 pm ]
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Does gladiator/duelist gets any good boost, and does they become stronger in Interlude?
Author:  mariosxx [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:02 am ]
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PaaGRIO wrote:
Who gave u the impresion that +STR makes more crit at skills ? If this is so why do u put +DEX +CON -STR on daggers if their skills are depending on the crits. Do u even begin to imagine what u are speaking about.Skillmastery has nothing to do with skill crit rate. I have a TH,TY,OL on hindemith, I have chars in the most pvp private servers too so yea i played everywhere i hope that answers your question i wonder where do u mr.PRo play. And these dyes -8 str is as i told after u reach the max lvl when u dont need to XP only pvp (yes i use them on private pvp servers too)

1. I did and I'm still doing, do your schooling before posting.

2. Str doesn't increase crit skill rate significantly, but seems to help
thus a dagger doesn't have a reason to put + dex anyway, since its useless.

3. Why would glad go -8 str? Increase what? He has tons of HP/CP
so + con is kinda useless. - dex wouldn't be a good idea cuz glad is slow
already. On my glad I did +4 str -4 con and I was happy with it.
Author:  BigDaddyO [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:35 am ]
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mariosxx wrote:
PaaGRIO wrote:
Who gave u the impresion that +STR makes more crit at skills ? If this is so why do u put +DEX +CON -STR on daggers if their skills are depending on the crits. Do u even begin to imagine what u are speaking about.Skillmastery has nothing to do with skill crit rate. I have a TH,TY,OL on hindemith, I have chars in the most pvp private servers too so yea i played everywhere i hope that answers your question i wonder where do u mr.PRo play. And these dyes -8 str is as i told after u reach the max lvl when u dont need to XP only pvp (yes i use them on private pvp servers too)

1. I did and I'm still doing, do your schooling before posting.

2. Str doesn't increase crit skill rate significantly, but seems to help
thus a dagger doesn't have a reason to put + dex anyway, since its useless.

3. Why would glad go -8 str? Increase what? He has tons of HP/CP
so + con is kinda useless. - dex wouldn't be a good idea cuz glad is slow
already. On my glad I did +4 str -4 con and I was happy with it.


I cud advise you the same.... + dex ads more crit rate, speed, atk speed and above all physical skill use and reuse times.
Author:  RAFAR [ Fri May 16, 2008 12:34 am ]
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I want to ask someone who knows gladi on official or retail servers. I noticed that on l2j the gladi's sonic force using skills' damage depend on the force level of use?
Example.
Force lvl 3-->0, double sonic slash, hit for ~1500 dmg.
Force lvl 6-->3, dss hit for ~2000 dmg.
Force lvl 8-->5, ~2300 dmg.
And this rule also goes for triple sonic and blaster.
Question: is this just an l2j imbalancement, or the specialty of sonic skills?
Author:  KentZ0ne [ Fri May 16, 2008 9:50 am ]
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gizeris remake your post .
it's the 1'st attempt.
I want this forum clean.
Author:  Powah [ Fri May 16, 2008 1:14 pm ]
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RAFAR wrote:
I want to ask someone who knows gladi on official or retail servers. I noticed that on l2j the gladi's sonic force using skills' damage depend on the force level of use?
Example.
Force lvl 3-->0, double sonic slash, hit for ~1500 dmg.
Force lvl 6-->3, dss hit for ~2000 dmg.
Force lvl 8-->5, ~2300 dmg.
And this rule also goes for triple sonic and blaster.
Question: is this just an l2j imbalancement, or the specialty of sonic skills?


More sonic fore = higher damage made by skills tht use them
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