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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:45 am 
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HE sux on oly but in PVE and open field pvp noone can beat it :)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:05 pm 
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Between He and Pr i believe He is better because he has the skill Hawk Eye wich increases accuracy and decreases P.Def so he won't do so much miss...


OMG where do you guys play??? I play on DEX... First of all almost all high lvl pvp is mass pvp with full buffs so you don't need accuracy... nobody uses that skill especially at mass pvp.. why? cos u full buffed and it lowers your Pdef.

if you never played archer go for SR or HE (HE is the perfect char for noobs in parties, can't kite, just stay still and press F1)

If you are an experienced player go for PR and keep him in maje not dracos armor.... fulbuffed all archers have about the same crit rates (real crits that hit I mean not figures)... so PR ahs lowest crit rate without buffs but highest crit power... with the huge Str bonus gives by % archery power on maje try to calculate the dmg output.. lts just say a PR on deadEye and Carnage bow hits the same Crit dmg as a HE with Draconic Bow.. imagine a PR with Draco Bow.

And no RapidFire doesn't help at pve at all.... if you guys had experience you would know that SR doesn't have pain of sagitarius so with rapidfire at Xp parties he would remain without mana fast... SR don't use that skill at Xp, only on pvp.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:33 pm 
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i prefer PR

Hits very hard but also die fast.
he is a real sniper with dead eye. slow shooting but pure dmg



HE rocks everything with Snipe but is a victim when his fronts in a siege get pulled back


all have there advantages and disadvantages so play what u like most

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All talk about the super STR of the PR but he have only 41 and the HE have 40 the difernce is not so big!


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:58 pm 
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All talk about the super STR of the PR but he have only 41 and the HE have 40 the difernce is not so big!

Yes....but you have hex :D....just put +5 str and you will see what he can do


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:12 pm 
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and higher dex(2nd after elves...) pawned...


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:31 pm 
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pff why u all noobs that play only at crappy l2j servers from last places of hopzone(thats sait:D) think that HE is the best archer??!! he doesnt have high dmg like pr(NOT ONLY STR NOOBS AND DEX makes the difference between he and pr dmg output!!!!) neither the self buffs and high dex of the elven archer...at oly even pr can self buff:D U use ur snipe AND what now?that idiot stays in ur sight and just hits u?! lol?! or maybe runs away? and what later? no snipe:D u get propably freez hexed power brake lands on u and u eat shi7 from pr.. or donno i used kiting vs HE with sr:) just kite ;] it worx for me fine:)stop with this uber HE he is not...mabe SR is uber with his high attack speed and nice self buffs? cmo0n he is for newbies as well th:) high con makes them easyer to play for newbies in l2 or archery ... they have nice str and that makes them==>go somewhere->stand->f1/go again somewhere->stand->f1 i was using that when i made my first archer:)second archer was SR and i pwned all with that pussy elf:)and last was pr and imo best(this means i play it best):) his krits are too heavy to say that pr is crap


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:27 pm 
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mariosxx wrote:
HE > all

In pvps a bit str wont make a big difference
While some HP/CP and attack range (snipe) will help...

PR is only better when you go gank someone...
HE is better overall.
SR sucks, no crit damage passives make him worthless, a runner ;d

PR is whatsoever better at exp, cuz of hex...

Anyway, end-game with full support HE > all chars in L2
But ppl like the ones that play Cosmos wouldn't know, would they? :d

HE> All?!
Have you ever played in a decent server? He is the most clumsy archer of all.
HE is an overplayed by retards (and very few skilled archers),tacticless and the only archer how is specialy made for the ones who cant kite. There is no thrill of joy, playing HE. SR Worthless? Your life is worthless ,Just because SR has a bit less critical power, compensates with his speed, critical rate, evasion. HE has no other skills exept stun,double shot,hamstring,lethal. This makes him just for people like you who put them on F1F2F3F4 and spam them. This game suffers alot from dumbasses, so please hide somewhere with your "BEST" character.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:23 pm 
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hahaha that was funny, i gotta admit. xD

HE has more HP/CP/p att / att speed/ weight capacity than SR.
How is HE clumsy?
And He cant kite? Why? cuz u got like 10 speed less than SR?
You have dash tho. And in endgame pvp u dont have to kite anyway.

Now gimme a reason to take SR rather than HE. For selfbuffs? xd
SR has the edge only vs nukers in small scale pvp. Nothing more.

Btw, archers are the definition of F1 char. All of em. So i dunno what u're sayin oO

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:33 pm 
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In endgame pvp you don't need to kite? This pretty much explains every stupid post of yours.

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ofcourse in endgame pvps most guys are buffed:D yes ofcourse u stay like stoned vs a tank or destro and u DONT kite. ok meng ok


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:54 pm 
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SR has the biggest critical chance but the lowest critical power
PR has huge critical power but the lower critical chance
HE is between PR and SR and he has the lowest DEX

i would say PR is the best because if he crits...it's game over :D

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and if he doesnt?stop this stupid flaming choose whatever u want!there is no best archer-every class has is purpose


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:09 pm 
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For pvp I would go for SR, for pve/bosses I would go for PR and for overally if I just want to play with an archer, I would go for HE or SR:)


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:34 pm 
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mariosxx wrote:
hahaha that was funny, i gotta admit. xD

HE has more HP/CP/p att / att speed/ weight capacity than SR.
How is HE clumsy?
And He cant kite? Why? cuz u got like 10 speed less than SR?
You have dash tho. And in endgame pvp u dont have to kite anyway.

Now gimme a reason to take SR rather than HE. For selfbuffs? xd
SR has the edge only vs nukers in small scale pvp. Nothing more.

Btw, archers are the definition of F1 char. All of em. So i dunno what u're sayin oO

HE doenst have more atk spd than SR
SR Has 15 more speed
SR Has more critical rate
SR Has more mdef
SR Has more speed
SR Has entangle
SR Has more accuracy (no its not worhtless)
SR Has rapid fire too (not too useful but ok)
When you said HE owns all of them, that pissed me off. SR/PR doesnt suck. Point proven


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