rofl.... if you're camping for pvp unbuffed then I'm sorry but darkpassion is right and you are the biggest noob in planet... or your enemies are... any dagger has to use terrain as his advantage if he's camping anyway... likecorners etc... where the range advantage doesnt work so well... and if you were a good dagger you wouldnt need to tell enemy to turn arround to backstab him... you would already know how to backstab him without saying anything... and bluff works surprisingly good in pvp...

I do not define PvP as 1v1, which in any case, seeing as almost everyone either plays on a private server where they have long buffs/AIO Buffers, or on retail, where there's plenty of people around to get buffs from, party with, whatnot, not to mention far too many people have boxed buffers on both retail servers and private servers.

in any case, PvP , that counts, is mass pvp, where everyone is fully buffed, or sieges, where everyone is fully buffed.

yet in mass pvp daggers remain worthless.they get killed before aproaching the target and don't sell me that bullshit again about them having high speed etc.
mass pvp:9v9:2-shot dead dagger.so you see?they're still weaklings nearly useless in pvp

once again I tell you... you cant kill a full buffed dagger with 2 hits unless you magic critical... believe me... a full buffed WR has nearlly 10k hp and 2k cp you cant kill him in 2 hits -.- and in sieges daggers arent first target... nukers are...

oh and you say that OL is the best for pvp etc... would like to see you owning a Elemental Master there's no character ingame that has advantage over all other characters ingame... that's the reality and that's why I like this game... no doubts about it...

no,healers are the first targets which proves you don't know what are you talking about,and yes,i'm sticking to my DOMINATOR.i'm not playing one atm but i did,and i ruled.
so please stop posting crap about daggers and go play with your wr in your barbie doll house.maybe he can kill something there.

rofl... healers aren't first target because they are always way behind the nukers... and if you got no brain to see what is the diference between good dyes and bad dyes for a dagger perhaps you should be playing tetris instead of lineage 2...

oh and by the way... I'm really getting tired of giving you lessons... so this was my last post... I think nemesis already understood what was his problem playing WR...

Hmm. I remember you saying dominators own everything as long as they just don't drain-drain-drain. The only thing they can do, besides draining, are seals and a DoT or two. But, the thing is with seals, mental shield makes the land rate of every single seal incredibly low. So unless you're playing on a server with instant mana drugs, using seals is kind of a moot point. Also, Gladiators // Paladins // DA's have a fairly good chance against OL's. They have so much HP // CP that at times it's impossible to drain through all of it.

1v1 means ol plays fighter role
mass pvp/siege means ol restores cp
dominator can enchant his skills
mental shield protects agains sleep.
dominator has sleep,slow,drain,mp drain,mp reuse delay,root,dot,another dot,silence etc.
oh and
OVERLORD/DOMINATOR HAS SOULGUARD

it's common knowledge that the OL has soul guard.

Everyone can enchant their skills.
Noone's gonna play a fighter better than a fighter.
the OL Sleep // Slow // Silence // Suspension // Binding // All of their Seals are affected by Mental Shield, meaning it'll be incredibly hard to land any of them.

i must say i register after i read your posts ..
i had to post too
first of all daggers own none in pvp self buffed of even full buffed ( vs full buffed oponent ofcource )
name any class u want daggers just cant own in pvp ( maybe they win 2-3/10 pvp's )
-mages ---> slow ( and slow almost lands every time ) then ull have a slow death , no dash no blinding can save u )
-heavy armor ---> ( da titan etc.. ) pfff wont scruch there armor
-archers ---> will propoly have taken cp + 20-30 of hp before u reach them

i played since c3 and i only like to play TH
th has good passive skills , good cp hp , criti , and dmg
i find him the most balanced between dagger clases
also TH can solo very well ( with pp buffs ).. i soloed with pp till lvl 74

daggers are for taking down mages that have not seen them ..
so u dont go in at the start of the fight , and u dont charge in first . either u w8 for ppl to take targets and then charge or try to sneak behind them.

i dont aggre when u say daggers suck each class has deffirent roles , and all classes are good and bad at pvp at the same time..



don't doublepost

dager have high speed....and if you are stupid enoght to go in front of you party in a 9v9 it wil be like you v 9 ......dager dont run in front of party....dager try to flank enemy party....they use teren to sneak behind enemy party ....or run to the side and come from behind and start having fun whit enemy healers ... or stay behind until partys come in to a fighting range and the fighting start and then RUNN and take you chance ...

i may have underestimated the windrider a bit but i was too fond of my warlock.sorry if i offended someone

Well,there is no room for fighting about who can a dagger own.In my oppinion a dagger class especially PW can OWN EVERY SINGLE MAGE if he knows how to play.And further any dagger class sux vs melee.Doesn't do good dmg.And omg if he goes pvp vs DA or WC... dies from reflect

reflect doesn't work on skills

SirAdrian is right OL is the best class in L2 i too play a OL and he owns every class , only he have some weakness vs archers and necros .
Look this 2 videos too see what im talkin about :
http://youtube.com/v/e2bPw-IDZ28
http://youtube.com/v/1tCj6BG6Ib4