about the death psike imagin necro doing 600 dmg at oly whit death spiek to full dark ressit. phantom will do onyl 300 then its wil lbe waste of time/mana to tkae tiem to cast it in first place.

about destros i dotn agree about graica part at gracai final evrybody raids whit destro and daggers in there partys destros at g final are actuly mashines on raids especely when u talk about se i wil ltake se to any party where evr im going i just like the boost in cna give to destros and dont forget inspector 100% more dmg is prety l33t dont u think? destros critikal hiting raids for 800-1m demage is prety l33t imo.

and for guys that uare refering i na only sia thye never played retail and thinsk evrything works lie kin there server(witch is not)

So you just pwned youself . I said everithing that is OP will be nerfed....and you just gave the examples .
Destro was OP - now is not
Kamaels where gimps - now are OP
Archers - there was imba - now they suck
Necro was OP - and now is not
Gladi was OP - and now it's not ?
Tanks where gimps ?- now they are OP
EE/Bishop - whas op since auguments - now they are not
Daggers - the only one class that seems to rock in any chronicle

Did I say something about Necro and Oly ?Why you keep changing the classes dude? First we where talking about IMBA warlord..you start to speack about sps after that summoners , changing to sh and now to necro ? I asked if you know what a AL can do with a proeminence skill ? Your answer is about necro I will say what he can do - PVE dude and that's all and even in PVE it sucks .
If someone say it suck you say it suck...if someone say it's imba you come and say it's imba . Stop acting like a parrot and make your own ideeas.


And I repeat myself for the last time since you seem incapable to undestand : did I say that classes are balanced ? Show me where ? The GAME IS BALANCED ! This is MMO so you need a good team and a team play....not a GOD char !!! There are not OP chars yes ...only some advantages that can be removed or useless in the next chronicle (I gave some ex...you gave some). Kamaels are now the most OP chars that I ever saw - but that not means that they kick everything in they way ! Same goes for every char in this game...can pwn and can be pwned...You can pwn tanks with summoners , you can pwn summoners with daggers , you cand pwn daggers with tanks and so on ... Yes I find this good and yes I'm not a guy that keeps changig his char every damn chronicle just because I wanna be a pwning L2 GOD.

i made the necro example to show how much your augment ideas are worthless
like dark res, water is common too, not much, but it's enough to make an sps useless

again, you talk about self-ownage when u did this the 2nd time, just right now
they nerf OP chars, so that others become OP, destro is worthless, no-one rly starts it at all, only on servers were he can get imba equipment
archers didn't "rule" all the time, they weren't so imba, there wasn't any archer era, it was very useful in c5/IL cuz it had low mp-use and imba crits, but next to them many ppl started tyrants, glads, nukers etc.. so it was never that much of an OP char

u said a few post ago that there are no OP chars
now u say that nerfing is not about balancing at all?
totally makes sense

Destro useless
Kamaels were never gimps
archers are useless
necro is useless
glad is still good, was op, now balanced
tanks weren't gimps
ee/bishop is now useless
daggers always ruled

your theory is just like what ncsoft follows
you think it's balancing if u nerf an OP char so much that it becomes worthless

if u're looking for sy who's keep changing the subject, look into a mirror cuz saying that i do is basically a stupid manuever to avoid answering

i made my own ideas and i have them, i told everyone that pp sucks, archers suck, destro suck, ppl kept telling me many-many-many times that i'm not right, i stay with my own opinion

again, u just owned yourself, just because you're the one who is a "parrot", i saw this "every new chronicle is better and better", "every char has it's own use" and crap like this all the time which is nowhere true

still no idea where u said everything is balanced? u just made another post about it, gosh

ahhh i lol when i read such a stupid fag optionion who only tested priv servs.

let me tell u somthing son.

Destro was OP - now is not - wrong they are more overpowered then ever(maiby not when frezy worked whit bow but almost same over power)
Kamaels where gimps - now are OP - they always was over powered actuly they got nerfed a bit now
Archers - there was imba - now they suck - they got boosted alot atm.
Necro was OP - and now is not - necro never supsoe to be a nuker its a debuffer a class that suports others whit de buffs.
Gladi was OP - and now it's not ? - overpowered more then ever.
Tanks where gimps ?- now they are OP - they supsoe ot take alot of demage.
EE/Bishop - whas op since auguments - now they are not - never supsoe to own others only at kamel they woend whit aguments at hb thsi issue was fixed ading only cna use 1 augment evry 30 sec at gracia it get fixed event beather.
Daggers - the only one class that seems to rock in any chronicle - they got boosted since kamael.

let me tell u somthing 16 year old kids you ar nothign that meathers, your opionions dosent mathers coz u are c4 moded private server players got it?

@Lhyno
I still sustain that the GAME (not the classes) is balanced atm and yes I still sustain that every char has his own use . Cuz you don't see them on High rates that means that they are useless ???...they are on low rates dude and still plenty of them (maibe excepting PP but the rest are there) !
There are no GOD chars...at least on the L2 I play . Don't know what you play .

@Guzeris
Dude those are some examples that are in 4834637 topics where mr Lhyno and some others keeps saiyng that are OP chars , L2 gods and shit....now they are 4328473 in wich same mr Lhyno say that got nerfed and they are useless .
I just used them as examples ! I just said to them to stop bullshiting ppl !

The game is more balanced than ever ! This is what I said from the first time !
Some chars got some boosts and thats all...there are not imba chars that rules the game atm !
This is what I say ..this is what I try to sustain here ..but it seems so useless cuz some just don't get it !

/ out of this nonsens discussion ...it's worthless

not realy sh is liek c4 necro he needs nerfs and much nerfs, yes it got nerfed a bit but its not enought hes still even worse the nc4 necro

U are retards....
U are forgeting that destro can reach imba crits with good buffs and gear witch make him as powerful as others.
About the necro... get a shitload of codex get ur debuffs +++ and lets see ....

necro is no way near strong as it was at c4 nerfed deaht spike, nerfed anchor, nerfed de-buff land rate

bane land rate from 40% chanceged to 25%. and list goes on and on..


talking about destro i already sayd its almsot same (event beather for raiding then at c4)

tell to this guy to...

Destro is just not as easy to play as it was i think.
I mean c'mon. In IL every idiot made a destro, because easy gameplay ----> lots of drops and fast way to lvl up and get money.

Now that frenzy is nerfed a lot, and it need a lots of other chars to pwn, it is not so appealing as it was. But at high lvls it truly can pwn. In PvE at least 4 sure.

l2 was always clan game so u always pve/pvp in full buffs anyway.

Maybe on official.
Most of the ppl i know are botting untiltil maxlvl and then dual/trial/quattro/quinto box with themselves :S

This is what this kind of guys hunt ! Easy gameplay with 1 button ...and if the class that use to pwn with one button now requires 3 buttons..that means that for them the char is worthless . They will reroll and reroll for another char that can pwn with 1 button and so on.
I mean to take for example the SK ...that char rocks and was always a beautifull class . How many play SK ?
But even now It's damn to hard for many "wanna pwn everyone".

@Guzeris
I always said that this is a clan game . This means MMO - team play .
Whats the beauty if you log 5 boots and play a solo game?
And Shalana...that's why I like to play on low rates servers with anti boot system and with limited boxes allowed. Antiboot can be passed...but for sure you will not see 1 char running with 5 bootbuffers after him.

tbh on gfinal.ru i fought not only lvl 85 chars
if on off u can bot and get 80+ EASLY on the privates with an antihacking system u have to lvl it byurself
u dont even have such a char(pretty sure bout that)
also learn to edit ur post instead of making 3 or 4 posts in row