try pvp in oly a sws vs bd take draco bow whit sws whit enourmos crit rate u will pwn bd and if he tryes to do whti bow to just use song to decrease archer dmg by 70% gf? earth song and bd crit u to ic 250 dmg max

yeah

any1 who say that BD>SWS is nab, even on hex + power breake SWS stats aren't so much reduced to dont make damage, imo sws is better tank on oly than real tanks bechause of that 200 speed, heavy armor, elemental song resists (that combined song earth+wind+water+fire pwn so hard), lol crit rate, nice m def, sword symphony (when it lands, you just smash a guy on oly wall) and that cast speed/att speed and speed debuff (dont remember name, the purlpe one mass skill) and selfbuff shield lvl 2/magic barrier lvl 3
ahhh, we have forgotten about dance

btw, we made offtopic a bit, didn't we ?

naw man what makes you think that ?

he's right..



































not

come on... I wasnt 100% serious

Going straight at the topic:

AW gets trick and not switch
PW gets switch and not trick

Why? DEs are evil, and elves are good fellas. Trick is a mean word, therefore a mean skill, elves wouldnt ever be mean, right?

If u think bd>sws then u are completely mistaken. Try to get urself a pvp party (archer/DD/nuker) with full support except swm. Then go and fight the exact same party but with swm. Guess who wins. Same goes for pve

se>ee? Are u stuck in C3 or what?? EE has everything u need. If u get emp from SE and an advanced heal from cardi, u are ready to be the main healer/support in any party. Yeah no VR but it has imba heals with very little mana cost (with clarity, arcane lore, arcane wisdom, SOrenewal, SOmeditation, magnus and bts, and the always-there invocation u will run out of mana next year) (read the bold part carefully, see how swm is important?)

sk>tk? Depends on what u wanna do. Generally, on gracia final, tk pretty much owns any sk.

sh>sps? Orly? I would say this is the most fair fight between andy elf and DE. Id say they are totally even. Ofc SH is better for pve and mass pvp, but nothing can beat the cast.speed of a SPS in small scale pvp...


So, u might reconsider ur opinions a bit. And yes I talk about gracia final, cos when u discuss classes u gotta look at the current balance/situation. U cant compare classes in C4, can u?

u all suck cuz u compare 2 classes that are absolutely necessery for any pt..
mage pt without conc+myst+siren=faill100%
same goes for medi invo ch

archer pt without fire fury warrior?fail
without hunter?fail again

dance of warrior is not 100 % necessary. If bd is kinda low level and can't dance 4 times with songs included, then he can replace warrior with conc, since healers need it... DC and summoners for cov and summon friend to regen faster respectively, need conc too if you play older chronicles than g final ;p

ye like low lvl bd wold go to cs / fortres / epics.

ye like you get lvl 76 instantly without the need to lvl in parties and stuff

sry didn't know your clan has all-time active SDs for all parties.

U never took low lvl BD for IT/FoG/cata/HB DD party? At 68(?) u already have everything u need, since in gracia u dont rly need siren as long as u have WM and magnus...

ontopic:

1.does trick/switch remove agro from mobs? I mean when mob attack you and switch/trick land (not resisted) mob stop hiting?

2.on gracia final I see new thing: shock stamp (warlord skill) if land (stun the mob) cancel it's target and after stun is ove mob return to its preverious location lol;d (not allways, but often)
is it a bug or it is like it should be?
server raidfight

uhh ? lol didn't knew that wm and magnus only were enough to get you the max 20% m crit rate...

isnt it more in final? I mean crit power is x3 than normal dmg, but whats max rate? and imo there should be crit rate in % and magic crit rate should appear too in char stat bar