dont think that destro is so immortal
btw for mass pvp i know that destro's dex is low but he can still shot with a bow
frenzy zealot is just for rushing

I was talking about HB (L2 Elixir x7)

Ofc, I didn't say that destro is immortal. But, he is clearly better than tyrant in mass pvp.

Also, guys mass pvp is not always 2 sides with one snipeline each and a big space between them as some of you think.

best pvp is all vs all ^^

the fact that your enemies are THAT retarded not to slay the healer said enough imo..
tyrant for example can easly kill the healer behind the destro and the ranged chars will beat the crap outta the destro+daggers can sneak to his back with a shadow step and stab..
so NO THANX leave ur retarded stories about your retarded enemies for yourself
ofcourse u did read all of the posts and after getting ur stupid clueless ass kicked u r trying to get outta the water dry..
u just fail..nothing more nothing less
edit:elixir is /failsv and the lastest l2 update is gracia final
get real

ya i will pick tyrant ^^
mods can lock topic now cuz its gonna turned into spam

Destro can do a brutal rush for 1 minute with zealot+frenzy+over the body (hellbound server u said) - that means he goes as a steam roller, into the enemy mass, kills some slower classes, then zealot and otb off, duracell depleted, he's destined to lie down in the opening circle around him... reuse for skills isnt such good, and in mass pvp u rarely have all reuse buffs u need.

Tyrant has zealot only that needs time to recover, but he has enough attack speed to be able to minimize it, and also he can use attack skills (most totems can be chained again and again) while zealot is on cooldown - then bison+zealot rush again.

My vote is for Tyrant. He have nice atk speed, nice speed, nice totems, nice ranged skills, HP. Since Gracia destro is for PvE, so he must go for PvE

in 1vs1 tyrant can win but only skilled tyrant coz a noob one would just spam skills till his mp is over (titan running after him spam cp pots) but if you know how to play tyrant a titan can hardly kill you.In farm okay i think we all preffer titan.
for raid bosses TITAN ALL THE WAY even in HB and gracia.
for mass pvp i chose tyrant coz with barrier he can run through enemies and go to healer/mages/archers and kick their ass

Yes, he can

Simply because if the healer of the destro will heal you too much (over 30%) your frenzy effect will be halved.

And if the tyrant has a healer too, than imo crit. stun fists will do the job ^^

u can have almost perma zealot
for example i am with tl heavy+puma+rskhaste+fury+cov
zealot ftw..
and ofc tyrant is an axcellet skill spamer

Dude are you TARDED? I just gave you clear proof that the gk > titan in mass pvp. You don't wanna read just because you don't ever wanna admit you're wrong. Damn hardheaded scorpio, just like myself.

Read these two lines:


Comprehend now 'bro? You are totally wrong.

What proof lol?

Theory?

I told you what happened in real pvp xD

with a tyrant i killed 6 supported archers with ch+wc 68 buffs in varka..
i had as a matelvl 65 tank in common b grade
varka is a great place to pvp
so i told ya what happened in real pvp

Guess u killed them at spawn xD

nah they were too stupid to kite me..