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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:35 pm 
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one more question, does ,,Erase'' skill chance to success does matter summon M def?

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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:38 pm 
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eXTReZ wrote:
one more question, does ,,Erase'' skill chance to success does matter summon M def?


no, make sure u always buff ur summon with mental shield

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:55 pm 
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not good.. Then best way to kill supports like ee or se.. in oly, do transform into my and summon fusion right?

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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:05 pm 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
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ohh, now i got ur point
u should express urself better and not just LOLHAHHAA shit arround

man in my opinion the answer is SO OBVIOUS that i dont even feel like explaining it
how the fuck do u wana deal more dmg with ur lolds with 10 power vs unicorns nuke?
ull get wiped
ESs summon is capable of dealing damage in UD mode(thanks to epic nuke+matk=l0l0l0l0l0l)
while the ps can be pro with 100 dmg per spike :D(greater battle heal will outheal it :D)

with homu+acu maybe.....
in what world do u live?

lets take a look to this case a bit closer:
PS with vesper caster 300 dark vs other class with 30 dark resist from cloak (+eventully frintezza's neck resist)
if u believe he will hit for 100 u r mistaken or attributes on ur server work wrong
vs es people have min 120 water resist
while es uses 1 pony nuke, ps will do like 10 of death spikes
during reuse of nuke from pony u can just watch him dealing lolmelee dmg and unsuccesfully try to stun some1 while ps can hit with summon and nuke at the same time

1 vs 1 PS is the strongest summoner and prolly u have never been fighting with/vs one nonbugged who can play his class well
while on oly es can rely only on that nuke from pony and his stun which never lands vs people with zaken+oly earring, PS can do a lot more damage than es with his lolnuke from pony

seriously stop testing things on noobs who have never had even S grades


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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:26 pm 
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BigLoL wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
EUPHORIA wrote:
ohh, now i got ur point
u should express urself better and not just LOLHAHHAA shit arround

man in my opinion the answer is SO OBVIOUS that i dont even feel like explaining it
how the fuck do u wana deal more dmg with ur lolds with 10 power vs unicorns nuke?
ull get wiped
ESs summon is capable of dealing damage in UD mode(thanks to epic nuke+matk=l0l0l0l0l0l)
while the ps can be pro with 100 dmg per spike :D(greater battle heal will outheal it :D)

with homu+acu maybe.....
in what world do u live?

lets take a look to this case a bit closer:
PS with vesper caster 300 dark vs other class with 30 dark resist from cloak (+eventully frintezza's neck resist)
if u believe he will hit for 100 u r mistaken or attributes on ur server work wrong
vs es people have min 120 water resist
while es uses 1 pony nuke, ps will do like 10 of death spikes
during reuse of nuke from pony u can just watch him dealing lolmelee dmg and unsuccesfully try to stun some1 while ps can hit with summon and nuke at the same time

1 vs 1 PS is the strongest summoner and prolly u have never been fighting with/vs one nonbugged who can play his class well
while on oly es can rely only on that nuke from pony and his stun which never lands vs people with zaken+oly earring, PS can do a lot more damage than es with his lolnuke from pony

seriously stop testing things on noobs who have never had even S grades


You love that buahahahahahahahah after you post smth?
vesper caster +300 dark vs 30 resist? mb vesper caster +30?
and 120 water resist is joke too? but whatever
ponys stun is rly strong admit it
same nuke, it has 250 power + magnus with 11k m atk when excessive loyalty triggers, and you call it lolnuke? in endgame you WILL hit for ~150 dmg per nuke.
lets think about smth like that:
u fight vs sh
summon goes to atk, you use ur ubapower ds and make 500 dmg after 3 nukes
then ur summon dies from vortex+crusher
when ES can UD his summon and its still able to do nice dmg

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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:32 pm 
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You love that buahahahahahahahah after you post smth?
vesper caster +300 dark vs 30 resist? mb vesper caster +30?
and 120 water resist is joke too? but whatever
ponys stun is rly strong admit it
same nuke, it has 250 power + magnus with 11k m atk when excessive loyalty triggers, and you call it lolnuke? in endgame you WILL hit for ~150 dmg per nuke.
lets think about smth like that:
u fight vs sh
summon goes to atk, you use ur ubapower ds and make 500 dmg after 3 nukes
then ur summon dies from vortex+crusher
when ES can UD his summon and its still able to do nice dmg

nice theory but u can use ud on ps's summmon too

whats wrong in having 300 dark attribute in weapon or 120 water resist in 1 piece of armor?
i think u r speaking about different game than l2....
and pony stun is lol, oly earring+tezza+zaken - three easy to get items and u can put ur stun deep...


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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:00 pm 
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BigLoL wrote:
nice theory but u can use ud on ps's summmon too


but it doesnt have range skill :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:50 pm 
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Xmvp wrote:
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nice theory but u can use ud on ps's summmon too


but it doesnt have range skill :wink:

but summoner does.... and b4 nuke of es reuses u can do more dmg with that mini death spike
and again u will hit harder from dark than from water due to reason posted by me earlier


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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:04 pm 
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BigLoL wrote:
Xmvp wrote:
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nice theory but u can use ud on ps's summmon too


but it doesnt have range skill :wink:

but summoner does.... and b4 nuke of es reuses u can do more dmg with that mini death spike
and again u will hit harder from dark than from water due to reason posted by me earlier


but if ur summon is in ud , u will be the only dd against pony's dps so no chance for you
even if the summoner has only 30 dark resist , ur death spike has low power so its impossible to kill the summoner bcoz of transfer pain that can transfer 60% dmg back on summon if its enchanted (not to mention that ur nukes will prolly be interrupted by pony's hits/stun)

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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:17 pm 
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Xmvp wrote:
but if ur summon is in ud , u will be the only dd against pony's dps so no chance for you
even if the summoner has only 30 dark resist , ur death spike has low power so its impossible to kill the summoner bcoz of transfer pain that can transfer 60% dmg back on summon if its enchanted (not to mention that ur nukes will prolly be interrupted by pony's hits/stun)


pony's hits r weaker than that nigga's
stun lands rarely as long as epics dont give stun bonusses to servitor while they give stun resists to summoner, heard its gonna be changed in some modern chronicles but how much truth is in that i dont know
u r talking only about extremely rare situation, in most cases such situation wont even exist


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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:25 pm 
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BigLoL wrote:
u r talking only about extremely rare situation, in most cases such situation wont even exist


u clearly have never fought against a good es and such an "extremely rare" situation happens everytime

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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:27 pm 
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Xmvp wrote:
u clearly have never fought against a good es

i had more problems with mid PS than with top ES
ps is just very rare class and not many people can play it well


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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:29 pm 
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i edited my previous post , stop trolling so fast :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:36 pm 
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i edited my previous post , stop trolling so fast :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Some kind of strange question about summoners
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:47 pm 
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if you are talking about situation 1x1 es and ps.. there winner will be not that which has ,,better'' class, but that which will be better player for that class. I'm playing with PS not a long time and I have so many summoners, nabs and not. At the moment I'm playing from new in x7 server and I'm only 68lvl and for now my PS is pretty hard to kill.

Most of problems I get from F A G S - Kamaels, but like sps or sph or fucking warlock.. too weak at now. Sure, I know that it's just for now and later I'll have real problem with sph, but now it's party ;D

For example, I was attacked by sps. Battle was like that ,,Sps attacked my summon with hydro, 1 hit (I'm using Nightshade and it's have almost 1k m.def with 10k hp) and he so, that it's not good, just try to hit me and get stun from cubic and it's done. He just died.

Warlock, attacked me, I used ,,Betray'' he does same thing. I have deactivate ss for servitor and activate UD, so my summon can't hit me, if he can't move.. But warlock does do that, he was trying to run away and heal, so died from himself kitty.. Does it not pathetic?

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