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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:39 am 
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Dude you're a noob. Damage in PvP comes from crits.
Not only 1 is a blunt (low crit rate) and HD hgets focus too.

Lol i wonder where the hell u got this idea? xD

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:57 am 
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Dude you're a noob. Damage in PvP comes from crits.
Not only 1 is a blunt (low crit rate) and HD hgets focus too.

Lol i wonder where the hell u got this idea? xD


Which of the Titans skills can crit?..
None is so stupid to fight with normal hits against a destroyer except for maybe a tank or another high Pdef/HP foe. The main aspect for fighting a destro is to let him hit you as few times as possible, meaning that you might never get to hit normal hits in an Oly fight... The chance is in if you stun your opponent, not just chasing with normal hits <,<'


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:31 am 
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lol..... xD jesus.... that post was funny.

Ok, 1st of all, crit rate has nothing to do with skill criticals.
Also, real damage in PvP comes from critical hits. You have higher DPS on HD. Also, destro sucks in PvP unless prefrenzied. When frenzied you just hit.

In Oly it's different since you don't have focus.
Also in buffed pvp, u wont miss a lot. So another - for DHA.
Oh and, in Oly your enemies will prolly have zaken etc, so stun is useless.

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Well marios U are wrong in a way cause 2handed blunt is far better for destro than the HD: focus :). Sadly its not the DHAxe that most of them are suppose to use, that come ofc from the fact that nobody really cares how zealot works on a different weapon so let me open your eyes :) i think i posted somewhere what is the zealot effect with fists ? well it is the same with blunts i know u still don`t get it let me explain :)

with HD: focus ( 2h sword type ) zealot gives u some shit + 100 crit. rate ( cause u are using a sword weapon )

now with axe zealot will give u + 100% crit. power, now that combined with a 2h blunt with focus ( does anyone know the grade and name of that blunt :) ? ok i`ll tell u its ) Behemoth`s tunning fork: focus ( top A grade weapon - added in interlude ) now if add to that gear a prefrenzied destro u`ll get smth like x1.6 your crits with HD:focus.

+ meaning if u crit for like 2-4k with HD u`ll crit for 3.5 - 6 k with that BTFork sure the crit rate is not that much, but u always get the benefit of the stun :) so think about it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:00 am 
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l Oh and, in Oly your enemies will prolly have zaken etc, so stun is useless.

Do you have any clue on how the epics work on retail?

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I don't. :? Enlighten me please.


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l Oh and, in Oly your enemies will prolly have zaken etc, so stun is useless.

Do you have any clue on how the epics work on retail?


Icarus leave him alone...he just knows the rb jwls effect on 124931264715x server :)
And btw.."so destro's stun is useless when the enemy has zaken". This was LOL...i just realised how NOOB is marios!

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I don't. :? Enlighten me please.

Let's say an epic gives 60% silence resistance. That was way back in the older chronicles. In ct1 (not sure, but i think ct1) it doesn't give 60% silence resistance anymore. Now it gives just 30% silence resistance, but it also gives you +30% chance to land silence.
This was done because in full epics a character could hardly be debuffed. In epics, the stun resistance was so high, that even shield stun wouldn't land well. That's why in oly, a dark avenger or paladin really has near 0 chances of stunning a destro.

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[quote="PaaGRIO"][/quote]But you still have higher DPS with HD... :P
Even if the fork is +6/7, HD focus +3 has better DPS :P

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mariosxx wrote:
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But you still have higher DPS with HD... :P
Even if the fork is +6/7,
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But you still have higher DPS with HD... :P
Even if the fork is +6/7, HD focus +3 has better DPS :P
And focus doesnt work the same way on blunts as in swords.


quit it. Destro relies in frenzy+zealot+rage+stun

with blunt u can do 2 stuns, with sword only one. With blunt ur crit rate goes higher than with sword (both with focus SA), the difference in P/M.atk of the IL weapons and the S weapons is rly small. BTfork has 305 P.atk and HD has 342 P.atk, which means 37 difference in P.atk. That will mean a total difference of 82 P.atk (on unbuffed and unarmored destro). And yes, with frenzy the gap goes up to ~300, and zealot isnt working properly in l2calc, so go test it urselfHD focus +3 has better DPS :P

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Destro relies in stun? If he doesn't have frenzy on, maybe.
Have you ever seen a zealoted and frenzied destro wasting time on stun, lol

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mariosxx wrote:
Have you ever seen a zealoted and frenzied destro wasting time on stun, lol


yes, when he faces an archer, and dont forget armor crush will rly potentiate ur frenzy

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mariosxx wrote:
Destro relies in stun? If he doesn't have frenzy on, maybe.
Have you ever seen a zealoted and frenzied destro wasting time on stun, lol


have you ever seen an archer or a mage runing from you until your frenzy and zealot worns off? omg...

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Destro relies in stun? If he doesn't have frenzy on, maybe.
Have you ever seen a zealoted and frenzied destro wasting time on stun, lol


have you ever seen an archer or a mage runing from you until your frenzy and zealot worns off? omg...


lots of times

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Have you ever seen an archer or a mage to BE ABLE to run from you when you have zealot? Do you???xD

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