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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:39 am 
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1 second can make difference between life and death........a C set will never replace a B set only becouse it gives a m attack bonus...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:52 am 
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I wouldn't ever use demon's set. for what? +150/200 m att...? fuck it..
I'd rather use set for c speed to b2m lil bit faster :p
Apart from the low p def and low mana pool demon set gives looks ugly as fuck. xd

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:01 am 
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chirurg wrote:
1 second can make difference between life and death........a C set will never replace a B set only becouse it gives a m attack bonus...
:lol:

when fighting 1x mobs ???
hahaha dude get real :))
the mob will make 1 or 2 more steps thats all
or he will hit you
once
since you dont need to cdl them becxause of the huge matk :))
oh btw you get 200 matk in your stat window
adding that to the skill will resolt in at least 500 more dmg :))


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:04 am 
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and if a group comes out wise guy?...only 3 mobs are enaught to kill u..or even 2 doesnt need to be 2x or Nx...if they come near u,then u will cast NOTHING with that low cast speed IMO..ure cast sucks and thats what kills u
:lol:

i totally agree with marios....demon set sucks and looks ugly as fuck
i put demon set on little dwarfs (crafters) in town LOL
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:22 am 
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Its not that you'll always die. If you're a bit careful you won't die...
Thing is, its not worth it. I'd still rather get c speed set.
Even if its +500 dmg Its still an extra hit not more.
I'd rather do 1 nuke more and b2m lil more/faster.
This way i wouldn't have to get another set for pvp :p

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:38 am 
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OK let me make this very simple:


In pvp you need Damage per second = A lot of casting speed, because u will most likely not run out of mana, so there you go for the mainstream setups like dc + Som acumen.


In Pve you need Damage per mana to do the best grinding = A lot of Matk so you can easily bring down a mob in 1 or two hits. And of course everyone knows that 1x mobs are the best exp if there are a lot of them. Four 1x hp mobs give more exp then one 4x hp mob.


Down to some math of the Demonic set:
(A base of dyes: Int+4/Wit+4/con+4)


Lets say that you make 100 damage per hit and do 100 hits, which makes it 100x100= 10 000 damage

With Avadon/karmian set +15% casting spd -->
100x115 = 11 500 damage

With Demon set only (weapon + magical power math would only confuse most of ya...)
The stats is +4 INT -1 WIT
+4 INT = +31.79% Matk
-1 WIt = -6% casting spd

Which makes: 94 hits and 132 power per hit
94x132 = 12 408 damage


This prooves that Demon set is better then Avadon and karmian in a non-close combat fight. For example, Demon set is better then Avadon and karmian on raids because of the better damage.

last calculation, how much more damage does the demon set do in the same time?

12 408 / 11 500 = 1.07896 = 8% more damage during a raid for example.
Adding any weapon to this would only make Demon set even better compared to Avadon/karmian


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lol dude, we do know demon will give u extra damage.
Thing is if its worth it. Its a matter of opinion.....

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chirurg wrote:
and if a group comes out wise guy?...only 3 mobs are enaught to kill u..or even 2 doesnt need to be 2x or Nx...if they come near u,then u will cast NOTHING with that low cast speed IMO..ure cast sucks and thats what kills u
:lol:

i totally agree with marios....demon set sucks and looks ugly as fuck
i put demon set on little dwarfs (crafters) in town LOL
:twisted:


If a group comes out it's not the sets fault, it's you that's facked things up <,<
plus that demon set vs avadon is a 21.9% casting speed differance, which doesn't make the huge difference in pve <,<


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:43 am 
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zaqen wrote:
chirurg wrote:
and if a group comes out wise guy?...only 3 mobs are enaught to kill u..or even 2 doesnt need to be 2x or Nx...if they come near u,then u will cast NOTHING with that low cast speed IMO..ure cast sucks and thats what kills u
:lol:

i totally agree with marios....demon set sucks and looks ugly as fuck
i put demon set on little dwarfs (crafters) in town LOL
:twisted:


If a group comes out it's not the sets fault, it's you that's facked things up <,<
plus that demon set vs avadon is a 21.9% casting speed differance, which doesn't make the huge difference in pve <,<


lool?...maybe u use l2 calc too much and u dont play all classes at all...well i play much and dont use calc at all...at i must tell u a secret: that 20% u talk about means A LOT get real faka'!
:lol: 8)

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mariosxx wrote:
I wouldn't ever use demon's set. for what? +150/200 m att...? fuck it..
I'd rather use set for c speed to b2m lil bit faster :p
Apart from the low p def and low mana pool demon set gives looks ugly as fuck. xd



Demon set gives +31.8% Matk and -6% casting spd... That plus a top C-grade magical power and you'll have 1k+ Matk on lvl 44


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:46 am 
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chirurg wrote:
zaqen wrote:
chirurg wrote:
and if a group comes out wise guy?...only 3 mobs are enaught to kill u..or even 2 doesnt need to be 2x or Nx...if they come near u,then u will cast NOTHING with that low cast speed IMO..ure cast sucks and thats what kills u
:lol:

i totally agree with marios....demon set sucks and looks ugly as fuck
i put demon set on little dwarfs (crafters) in town LOL
:twisted:


If a group comes out it's not the sets fault, it's you that's facked things up <,<
plus that demon set vs avadon is a 21.9% casting speed differance, which doesn't make the huge difference in pve <,<


lool?...maybe u use l2 calc too much and u dont play all classes at all...well i play much and dont use calc at all...at i must tell u a secret: that 20% u talk about means A LOT get real faka'!
:lol: 8)



I play a lot, and i tend to use my brain, unlike you do apparently.
Pve is about doing more damage per second right? Check my other calculations here. And i don't use any L2 calc <,< Just my own logic


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mariosxx wrote:
lol dude, we do know demon will give u extra damage.
Thing is if its worth it. Its a matter of opinion.....


U need 260 coins from u start the coin quest until u can buy the demon gloves. What do you need for the whole Avadon set?..


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:50 am 
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i dont give a fack about ure calculations...damage per second?..ahhahahahaha fack it!
:lol:

ure cast sucks..u have lil increased m attack but a mage needs cast speed as a DD need sttack speed...i told u once and told u again GET REAL FAKIN DUMBA$$

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chirurg wrote:
i dont give a fack about ure calculations...damage per second?..ahhahahahaha fack it!
:lol:

ure cast sucks..u have lil increased m attack but a mage needs cast speed as a DD need sttack speed...i told u once and told u again GET REAL FAKIN DUMBA$$

peace!



What? You're pretty damn ignorat, everything that that post is about is that Demon gives more damage then if you get a lot of casting speed with Avadon/karmian.

More damage = better, right?


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zaqen wrote:
mariosxx wrote:
lol dude, we do know demon will give u extra damage.
Thing is if its worth it. Its a matter of opinion.....


U need 260 coins from u start the coin quest until u can buy the demon gloves. What do you need for the whole Avadon set?..

Why craft avadon? DC directly.

And lol, m att setup kinda sucks this way, wtf? magic power wep?...
I wouldn't ever do it :p

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