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Shalana
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:25 am 
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I think EE is nice with shield buffs. But it's not good to your damage dealing.


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Why not an Overlord?


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Overlord cant give u attack speed increasing buff, not even focus and vampiric, and theese are important to people.


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Yes, but remember that the wc has a big loophole: no wind walk. Ofc, it can be replaced with a potion without a problem.
Lhyno wrote:
Yeah, maybe a fighter weapon should be in hand too.

Yes, you should always have a fighter weapon, especially if you are s-grade. A fb focus or w/e.

Shalana wrote:
I think EE is nice with shield buffs. But it's not good to your damage dealing.

Ee should be great too.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:13 am 
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Azure wrote:
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PP:
physical dps=493.5
p.def=1676
m.def=1471
(100% block without toggles)


Is this with Berserker Spirit? Never put it on a tank..
I suggest WC - crit power, rate, haste, might, shield, greater might/shield, CoV, vampiric, reflect..
I mean.. what can SE offer you? No haste.. no greater might/shield.. no CoV.. no reflect.. ok you got Empower but what for? It's true you got magic skills but you are a fighter anyway.. will you give Haste, greater might/shield, CoV and reflect just for Empower?
The only problem is WC's buffs require high MP, but afterall they last 20min so he can buff you and even your party if you have one..
About EE - you really need stun ressist but if you can get Majestic armor and eventually some boss jewel its not needed that much..
And also majestic heavy really fits a dark elf - 50% stun ressist, +2 STR (you got a good P.atk bonus cuz u already have high STR) -2 CON (its ok, you dont lose so much since u have low CON) and some accuracy..oh and the 4% p.atk which you will need as a tank (with low atk) and its awesome vs mages..
Thats what I think.. and thats what I would chose..

Ofcourse its without berserker. About WC:
no bless shield/btb/bts/ww/regen/magic barrier. But the good side is, all of the mentioned buffs are able to get at a ch. Cov gives some matk and with empower lvl1 from ch, it will be still something. Also resist shock was there?

I feel this topic is gonna be endless.I think way too much for a buffer. They help me equally well, so it will be better to ask the ppl I play with everyday, what buffer they need most imo.


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Remeber that sk is a fighter...use a focus wepon and pp as buffer because he has best fighter buffs...wc is nice too...but in pve berserker works super nice for sk...on a low rate server I was useing composite set and sls+focus at lvl 70(this because of my lack of adena) and I was killing 2x mobs in Wall of Argos and I always had full hp even with berserker....just had to use bought drains on mobs with full hp.
And btw for thoes who never played with sk on low rate ,w/o mana pots, server stop talking about acu+empower...go for focus sk is a fighter...hex lands with no problem if you use blessed spirit shots.


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Teudon please, how many times do I have to tell? SK is atleast half mage and SE can give some normal fighter buffs, empower, vampiric, grheal and recharge!
These are extremely important, if you don't go for SE or don't have empower from somewhere, then start a TK/PA or DA, but not SK!
SK is useless w/o empower, it's just then a DA w/o summon +hex.
After 70+ w/o empower, hex does not land so much.

To do the drains/hex/pb and other magics mage wep is better that's for sure, for hitting you might need a fighting weapon ofc, but still, if u have a frickin SE with you, don't you think it will recharge? You can use as much as mp as you want, coz of focus mind you have even more. I played with SK, that's why I know and if a PP or WC will recharge you, call me:D


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Acumen is easy to get, just go to the priest of dawn in the seal validation period and buy lots of pots to last one week. 100 pots is really more than you need.

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wait wait guys whats the problem?such a long discussion!
if u r tanker-sk(u will only tank in big pts)--->ur best friend is the elven elder ofcourse!
u r goin to solo? wo0t no problem take wc/pp/se
wc is great shit with haste buffs,vampirics,reflects blah blah blah but wo0t his buffs are low lvl
what i mean?compare vamp buff of se with the vamp buff of the wc:)
but wth? u dont rly need vamp if u r not going for aoe(its possible!)
so go on choose pp-->pve=berserk spirit u r great:) u have high p def,bless,well u also have blessed shield and so on


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GoDs3nD wrote:
wc is great shit with haste buffs,vampirics,reflects blah blah blah but wo0t his buffs are low lvl
what i mean?compare vamp buff of se with the vamp buff of the wc:)

LOL

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mariosxx wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
wc is great shit with haste buffs,vampirics,reflects blah blah blah but wo0t his buffs are low lvl
what i mean?compare vamp buff of se with the vamp buff of the wc:)

LOL


wc finally gets vr lvl 4 but he gets lvl 1 at higher lvl than the se

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Ruud44 wrote:
mariosxx wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
wc is great shit with haste buffs,vampirics,reflects blah blah blah but wo0t his buffs are low lvl
what i mean?compare vamp buff of se with the vamp buff of the wc:)

LOL


wc finally gets vr lvl 4 but he gets lvl 1 at higher lvl than the se


he doesnt know that.. at pvp servs u lvl rly fast so in 5 min u have vamp 4 with wc


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Lhyno stop talking in theory.And stop the saying that sh1t about sk beeing half nukker half fighter...look at his stats and tell me what you see.
And btw you even know what focus mind does?


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Look at his skills and tell me what you see.

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erm i see 2 draining attax,one freezing,1 paralizing.. well may i say he is half nuker? yes ofcourse..


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