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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:02 am 
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To help the discussion i play in 15x server C5

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I would go for Duals, helps a lot.


I dont like duals 'cause they need to me +4 at least and im very unlucky in enchanting stuff so i will go for Yaska or a Dagger but i think i will go to Yaska because of it's accuracy, i need to hit to the cubics trigger, right?

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for pvp I would go for acumen as I did with arcana lord


I already said that i have a Acumen weapon for C grade...Homu

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I say Warlock is the best class for Catacombs. Kai the cat owns all. If you have some duals with health SA and a sword with acumen SA you will surely make insane exp and others. Summon the cat, cubics, put your duals on...and pwn! when the cat has low hp, put your sword on and heal it. When you will get noblesse, you will be a god damn muvafacka monster in olympiad :D

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hm... where shoul i begin ?

1ST: u need atack speed and casting speed so u can have more hits and hiting an enemy is the way you trigger a cubic. The landing rate and cooldown is influenced only by the lvl of cubic: at higher lvls ur cubic triggers more often.

2ND: If ur playing on a mid rate server or a hr one, and u got mana pots, then dont waste ur time with light and other fighter wepons. go for acumen wepons and c speed robes. Why? so u have more C speed, u can cast more curses/servitor buffs, heals ----> cubic triggers more often even from a wind strike or a low lvl spell!!! Well, u can go for a light set to... but the extra p def i dont consider it an advantage: robes give u c speed and increase mana -----> battle heal and again u use spells more often. But it's good to have a light set and a dagger/ duals.

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The server doesnt have mana pots...

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hm... where shoul i begin ?

1ST: u need atack speed and casting speed so u can have more hits and hiting an enemy is the way you trigger a cubic. The landing rate and cooldown is influenced only by the lvl of cubic: at higher lvls ur cubic triggers more often.

2ND: If ur playing on a mid rate server or a hr one, and u got mana pots, then dont waste ur time with light and other fighter wepons. go for acumen wepons and c speed robes. Why? so u have more C speed, u can cast more curses/servitor buffs, heals ----> cubic triggers more often even from a wind strike or a low lvl spell!!! Well, u can go for a light set to... but the extra p def i dont consider it an advantage: robes give u c speed and increase mana -----> battle heal and again u use spells more often. But it's good to have a light set and a dagger/ duals.


Since Kamael you don't need more to hit to the cubics trigger, just stay on Combate Mode, u can try a hit and miss. The cubics will still attack.


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If you missed back in the other chronicles, they would still trigger. This was in c4: hit your enemy once (doesn't matter if successful or nor), and then keep your target on him, while in combat mode. The cubics will make fun of him.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:38 am 
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about duals, i cant rly agree becous on 76+ in fighte raprty all you do is buff wioth feline queen and make debuffs, so in my apinion the best is dc robe set and homa/valhala/som/arca with acum
i play on x5 interlude now and on my 76 that is more important to heal summon than hit with duals, sumonerd dmg with duals is too small that it could be a option, i thin from c4 when sumoners use to agrr mobs on him and needed light armor for dmg are gone and in IT+ there is only robes and acums to use. about tattos I say better no no tatto! yes i mean it on low rates becous "skill mastery" is influenced by str and sumoners wery oftern make +dex, con -str so skil mastery is low, + some make more wit by taking off int and me hmm , i mean if you can afford S grade jevelery good you can make - men othervise.. making -int +wit also dont work becous in pvp sumoner is as i sad buffer+debuffer and debuffs need int
plz if someone has any tips for arcana lord i would like to hear them and also plz share your apinion of my gameplay tactic ty :)


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dude wtf are u talking about mp pots i just sai wtf!?!?!?!?!?!?

we all know what server it is if there is mp pots....

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:29 am 
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about duals, i cant rly agree becous on 76+ in fighte raprty all you do is buff wioth feline queen and make debuffs, so in my apinion the best is dc robe set and homa/valhala/som/arca with acum
i play on x5 interlude now and on my 76 that is more important to heal summon than hit with duals, sumonerd dmg with duals is too small that it could be a option, i thin from c4 when sumoners use to agrr mobs on him and needed light armor for dmg are gone and in IT+ there is only robes and acums to use. about tattos I say better no no tatto! yes i mean it on low rates becous "skill mastery" is influenced by str and sumoners wery oftern make +dex, con -str so skil mastery is low, + some make more wit by taking off int and me hmm , i mean if you can afford S grade jevelery good you can make - men othervise.. making -int +wit also dont work becous in pvp sumoner is as i sad buffer+debuffer and debuffs need int
plz if someone has any tips for arcana lord i would like to hear them and also plz share your apinion of my gameplay tactic ty :)


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Mages Skill Mastery are influencied by INT, not STR, this is for fighters.
Duals are so handy when u are in PvE or PvP against a mage that have not noticed about you.
DC Robe is the worst gear to use on summoners and non-nukers-mages. BW Light or Majestic.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:35 pm 
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here is my gear

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Homu+acu
Yaska+health
Karmian

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Homu+Acu (trying to get SoV)
Yaska+health(trying to get AOBA)
BW light

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dont have and dont know what to wear xD

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:21 am 
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@jonicas

Stay with u BW Light, it was the best on PvP for you right now.
If u can afford a MJ Robe for PvE woud be very good.
Tallum Robe maybe. But never a DC, you'll lose more MEN, and this sucks, Tallum sounds good, you'll lose -2INT, plus ur dyes, but the debuffes you'll cast has a high Base Land Rate, M Atk is not so important in Summoners, own experience.

You don't need to exchange ur weapons now. And don't try a SoV, the only good weapons B are Samurai*Samurai and AoBA imo.


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Nop, i cant afford a MAJ robe so i will get Tallum

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he only good weapons B are Samurai*Samurai


didnt the duals have low accuracy?...well i see a wc if that and miss almost every hit

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Tallum sounds good, you'll lose -2INT, plus ur dyes


so if this set what dyes should i use?

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Nop, i cant afford a MAJ robe so i will get Tallum

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he only good weapons B are Samurai*Samurai


didnt the duals have low accuracy?...well i see a wc if that and miss almost every hit

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Tallum sounds good, you'll lose -2INT, plus ur dyes


so if this set what dyes should i use?

P.S: @Vawned so para saberes sou portugues^^


Well, if u think they have a low acc, u can use fists, have more acc than Duals, and hit the same (and have less critical power). I used Duals on my Phantom summoner and it works very well (and you have to see that PS has Spark Cubic, that lands like hell, and makes the way against players more easy).
Use the Tallum more for PvE, for PvP I still think that BW sounds better, cuz you will have a lot of P Def (the same as using Grade A Light armor), and still have +10% of casting spd (if you see that will lose 1 point with the set, that means +/- 5%).

Well, My gears is these:
Best weapon u can afford, Duals sounds good, but many ppl don't like. And for Warlocks I think it's better use a strong magic weapon.
BW Light or MJ Robe (Tallum for PvE is kickin' ass, but beware with ur heals, to don't call aggro from the mobs).
-9INT +4WIT +5MEN
(With BW Light you'll have -11INT +3WIT +8MEN)
YES! Believe me, with -9 on Int you'll not lose so many M atk, ur curses have a strong base land rate, will still land, if not, just cut off the dyes; +WIT Means casting spd (that are handy if u don't use Acu weapons like me, that go for duals); and the +5 on MEN will make you a PvEing machine, with no downtime, better with the bonus of the BW, and still have a HIGH curses resistance (that means no silence, if u are silenced, u can't heal your summon), and a strong M Def, don't believe in what the Calc says, it will give more M Def than expected.

I think this is all, but remember, I use this setup in a Phantom Summoner, DElves has different stats from Humans. So, test it by yourself, and say to me if works ^^


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:42 pm 
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hum...i will try use fists and i think the dyes setup its good for warlock too

for now im just using the bw cause i still cant get the tallum...but i will :)

so thx a lot i will say something if it doesnt work^^

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