i will vote for AW very nice dagger so much crit. low con but with majestic will be nice archer killer

NO COMMENT u daggerpro...

the problem with the aw is the low con, and the tricks range is only 400... but when it reaches an archer... ^^

first to defead anytype of char u have to be sure that u have same or better items then the enemy,u have to be sure that u are not a noob,and u have to be sure that u don't play on some fucked custom server with overpowered arhcers if u have all 3 things then u can use any tank char(DA,SK,PA,TK) i prefer DA couse of partend on pvp seervers i buff the panter too with dances and song's,cov and pp buffs that will make the archer nonfactor also if u want can hide your main class and use overencheted bow + overencheter IC set and archer never kill u!!!!!!Tank with 3-5 tabs buff +Draco Bow(focus)+20+IC set+20+Rb jewelery owns un archer with same items without any problem...even 10 archers if u want to try that go on l2refused there tank's have custom skill critical chance lvl 2 and pwn all archers and dager's and mag's there are notfactors!

When he reaches the archer the archer alrready gave him good damage.

If the archer its clever he will win...
SR will entangle/hamstring him and kite him with rapid fire and stun shots.
PR will use FS/hamstring and kite gim and use stun shots.
HE will stay put and keep using stun/lethal/dual shot without showing his back.
The 3 of them will use UE and blow land rate will go down.
They all got +200-300 range boost at 78.

Dagers are great, they can beat any character, archers? hell yes but you are NOT overpowered against archers.
Daggers have lower hp, low defence, no range and will be recieveing damage before reaching the archer.
And when they rech the archers they have to be lucky and land the friggin blows, wich its in fact harder if the oponent uses UE.

You are just being dagger fanboys, surely playing on c5 priv servers and with no fucking clue about what are you talking about.

dont say something which ur not sure about
im not a dagger fanboy, not a priv server idiot, the idiot is U whos calling me stupid coz i told my opinion

i dont care what u think, i can beat many archers with a th, thats the clue, if u dont believe this keep on crying asshole

I never cryed sweety, i just keep calling facts and you keep saying that daggers kills archers.

Daggers kill archers, but they are not anti archer. Archers kill daggers and they are not anti dagger.

Its like saying titans are tanks because they can recieve lots of damage... they are not meant for that.
Tanks are really anti archers.
More defence, deflect arrow, and shield every little thing that decreases the damage taken by a bow hit.
They also have roots and slowing debuffs and tribunal and the other skill that decreases accuaracy and critical damage.

forget the daggers they cannot kill archers , hmmn , so my theory is :
archer > dagger
archer > mage
archer > ol
hmmn maybe only a gladi

1st tanks
2nd glads and tyrants.

Every class can beat an archer but its easyer for those i named.

This thread is SO retarded but i will post once again....

Tanks are not good for killing archers...hell they are not good for killing anything,they TAKE damage but cant GIVE anything good back even with S grade weapons they damages is low,they could immobilize a target for sometime but thats all no serious damage will be done that CP potions cant fix.......

Daggers are the the best when dealing with mages and archers,of course the only good daggers you people have seen are on youtube ffs...although i prefer a spell singer...but thats IF you master your char at 100%

In mass pvp or ganging archers are well buffed so evasion doesn't count much unless you got all of it (evasion buff,song of water) and still you will evade 2-3 arrows tops,but when you hit UE (something that you people hit once a week i guess ?) things change,and if you hit dash as well or blinding blow you are damn fast and you don't have to bluff/switch/trick anything you just stab them down,you will kill at least 3 archers IF you know how to do it....hf bb

daggers kill archers?
tanks kill archers?
full buffed archers are overpowered and honestly if you want to kill one be sure to have better gear and lvl/oe skills.
yes,daggers CAN kill an archer.however to do that they need to get really close to them which is kinda hard due to slow/stun/crit.as it was mentioned before,UE works for either archers and daggers.
imo, fullbuffed sps has better chances against an archer due to VERY high casting speed and slow/dot/etc.
also as serenity tanks can't kill anything.they can only TANK.and if you want to talk about the DA's panther...well.it's a one-shot target and you can't afford to summon another one because you'll die in the process.
there IS another class that can beat an archer and that would be the elemental master due to his imba lvl 79 pony: speed,damage,nukes,stuns.

i think it is easiest way to proove that u are wrong

http://www.livepvp.com/index.php?p=viewfiles&fileid=938

Anti-Archers are obviously well known as tanks , i just love them ,especially pallyes.
Titans are good as well. Anyway this kind of threads are kinda boring.. theres no such of thinks like "x" = anti "y" , "x" ownz "y" etc..

agree 100% ... most of the ppl that post in this thread are playing in stupid servers 5000x ... where tanks can make good items and full buffs / dances / songs for 999 hours

daggers are the fastest killers !!!!!!!!!! AND THAT'S IT


imo a full buffed archer with draconic bow +draconic set and tat. jewelery cant be killed by mages

the only tank who has good chances against archers is TITAN <3 with good equips ... umm when i tank about archers i usually think about HE , idk sure about SR and PR what they can do cuz i never played with them

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