agile? never, even with dex dyes and light armor, you wont get enough evasion, you lack boost evasion passive and stil low DEX.

anyway, dex means: speed, atack speed, crit rate, evasion, shield block rate.

what of these gladiator needs? Even +5 dex will not make any big difference, everything what dex increases just wont make a difference on a glad.

destructive? man, no offense, but do you know what is the source of damage of a gladiator? it is NOT atack speed and NOT regular strikes and their crits. His way of DD is in his skills, that dont have fast re-use, anyway, your dex dyes will not short it enough, it will be just the same in pvp. => That means, you have to do as much damage as u can in your skills, and thats the point. Your skills are based from p. atack and their chance to crit (double damage) is affected by STR, not by crit rate or buffs.

So, to be destructive, you need STR, not DEX.

I agree best dyes should be +5 STR/-5 DEX +4 CON/-4 DEX
But, if you dont like lowering your dex so much, try option +5str/-5 dex and no increasing of con. But anyway, do not increase dex, its useless.

My first post here, so Hello everybody

I know that I play on a server with stacking subclases and some other custom stuff and we have 15% PvP damage reduction set up, becouse PvP's were kinda 1 hit-1 dead, but....

I can ensure you, that atk. speed for glad is nothing and it's really p. atk and high amount of strenght that makes him killer.

I recently met glad/pp in MDT and we had a selfbuffed PvP, just for fun (I am paladator as you can see in from my sig.).

We both had almost the same equipment:tallum h. set, tallum*dle+4. I had +4str, +4con / -8dex dyes and he had +4str / -4con only. He lacked 3rd prof. on PP so he didn't have pof.

The result was, that he died in 4 (fully charged) skills from me (blaster, double sonic, tripple sonic, double sonic) and I didn't use any paladin's skills (so it was theoreticaly glad vs almost pp-buffed glad).

I thing then is bad low "most" DEX becouse low speed (-8 DEX is -9 speed) and atak speed (-8 DEX is -8% atak speed)......
i play on low rate C5 and i havent sonic move.....but whithout sonic move is -9 speed bad :-/......but it isnt most terrible.......bud terrible is -8% atak speed.....but it is -8% reuse skills,-8% throw skill time .....and -8% all dmg ( dmg for time)........so i thing then best dyes are +4 STR/-4 DEX or +5 STR/-3DEX -2 CON

/edit: sry for my english

+5str / -3dex|-2con best IMO*


*It's my opinion and it is best for me.[/i]

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U have great issues but decreasing duelist's Dex means that u decrease his speed.I dont think that decreasing someone's speed is the best choice.
also with the term "destructive" i wanted to mean that the speed+ the atk speed bonus he will gain(decreasing his con of course) the duelist will be a very potent opponent even if - con makes him vulnerable.
I agree and disagree with u at the same time but any set of dyes is an option and each of those are supposed to be used for different purposes after all that's why l2 is calls mmoRPG,cause its based on role-playing.

Sure, but the duelist is supposed to be a DUELIST, a pvp character. By destructive, binturong meant that he would be great in pvp. High damage output and really good hp/cp ration. -con in pvp is not an option for ANY fighter, EXCEPT hawkeye.

so what set of dyes is he supposed to use in order to reach his full potential ?

+con
+ str
-dex
is the most usefull but it will slow him down like a turtle even if dex is just useless in other factions

stupid mengz whats ur problem?for what do u need the dex?for speed?hahah dont make me laugh sonic move is there for u
for what u need dex?for crt rate?lol u rely on ur skills...noobs
accuracy?NO SHI7 mengz!accuracy for ur skills?no way
atk spd?!ah yes atk spd--->SPIRIT OF DUELIST
whats ur problem?u wanna lower his con?his advantage is GONE he will loose maybe more than 1k hp per -4 drop..(not sure correct me if im wrong)
-dex is best option

ok... if u wanna play duelist use - dex... well i wouldnt and thats IMO.

please show me why?!i rly dont get it!!!
the con is needed to be the hardass as it is
str is needed to crit more with ur skills and for higher skillsa power..

explain why u drop str/con not dex?

well i wouldnt i 'd choose no dyes at all and thats why it will dramatically change the duelist's playstyle.
also sonic move has a reuse delay.
Also dex means even more atk spd ..but as i said before if u want to increasise a base stat u have to decrease another one as well.I'm possibly wrong and disoriented but that's what i believe.

You can simply use +5STR -5DEX if you don't want to lower so much your dexterity

yes.
why not ?
or +3ste +2 con - 5 dex for stability

ok listen here lower base stat=lower loss right?u lose more if u have more of it now tell me:D u have shi7loadz of hp based on ur high con why u lower ur con?

ok now look at this why u lower ur str?ur main weapon may be enchanted->ur sonics will have lower/higher power/crt rate if u add or drop str

ur base low dex means u wont get much of thaat or u wont lose much of that..