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What do you like better?
Swordsinger 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
Bladedancer 86%  86%  [ 19 ]
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 Post subject: Re: General BD/SWS thread!
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:24 pm 
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EUPHORIA wrote:
So, I have some questions about BD since Im playing one now! :P
What dyes should I use? I mean, I dont need stupid PVE dyes, but for PVP! :P
What subclass skills should i go for? I was thinking of emergent MDEF/PDEF LVL 6? Which better, since BD's have MDEF passive, should I go for LVL 6 PDEF and master PDEF? :D Kinda dunno what to go for BD!
Augmentations : Should I go for the passive mana decrease when dancing or smthing else? If yes, by how much will it decrease mana consumption?
TY! :p
Ask any BD/SWS related questions in this thread plz! :P




For pvp I use +str+con alot of hp and p.atk and for sub go SK if u want to be 1 hard mutha fuka or duelist for fast owning :D
Don't criticize me Im new in the forum :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: General BD/SWS thread!
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:41 pm 
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chance haste is not a bad thing when u have to redance
passive clarity? imo it's not rly worth it, go for sth that is for parties, or celestial if u're being targeted, losing a dancer in a long-run mass pvp is a big deal

for pvp imo +5con -5str[or -2/3dex and -3/2str]
since u don't rly use any skills str is not rly sth u need, if assist with bow then u should lower dex a bit, but +5con is a must, if u leave it just be, u'll be the paper target
i'd rather just arrest things, res ppl, use demonic blade dance/hex/pb/freezing strike and such stuff and for that str is useless, in 1vs1 u're done for anyway
as for subclass, go for resists, cp, atk/cspd imo, pdef is just a secondary idea, sure, gracia is the fighter's era so mdef doesn't rly mean anything


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:43 pm 
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should i make an "Elven Elder" thread too?
pff.

LE: lol LHYNO -str? haha

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:46 pm 
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+5 str -5 smth (dex or con w/e u want). +con is not a must

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:52 pm 
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no warry u won't get dynasty so soon ^_^

ps: do u even know how much crit dmg makes a bd with db+focus?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:21 pm 
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1st of all there is already topic made by Vawned for nubs like u so search b4 asking nab questions

drop str and hack con use hp duals play agro dude in pvp and get counter cele,boost cp,greater mdef IMO
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:40 am 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
drop str and hack con


enough said.

GoDs3nD <--- PR0 BD N0T!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:44 am 
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Xmvp wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
drop str and hack con


enough said.

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oh okay!go for str and become a stunmagnet and die in 1 or 2 hits
i play bd in pvp that way and its pretty efficient


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:57 am 
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u go pvp selfbuffed against 10 clans?
ofc not .. u have a healer, a buffer etc etc
putting con won't make u moar "efficient" in pvp especially decreasing str (there is maj for better stun resist btw)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:00 am 
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Xmvp wrote:
u go pvp selfbuffed against 10 clans?
ofc not .. u have a healer, a buffer etc etc
putting con won't make u moar "efficient" in pvp especially decreasing str (there is maj for better stun resist btw)

more cp pots-->higher chance to survive
a bit moar cp,hp-->higher chance to survive


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:04 am 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
more cp pots-->higher chance to survive


lame reason

GoDs3nD wrote:
a bit moar cp,hp-->higher chance to survive


a bishop recovers that "bit moar hp" in 0,5 seconds
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:07 am 
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atm with all the skill enchants and attributes and buffs and shit bladedancers do pimp damage with a bow and with a cancel stick they are really good...so dropping str is not that good...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:12 am 
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diff playstyles..
@xmvp-nt the reason is lame :D its u


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:39 am 
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with +con mj has even a better performance since that +50% resist is based on con

bd is yeah, a good damage dealer but give me a break pls....in pvps? rly?
it's worthless, while u can assist with any other skills u have and can ressurect in the meanwhile more useful characters, why would u go for dd-style?

after a dancer has danced, it's no more that a dark elven fighter with some assistance skills
i'd rather resurrect a bish, OL or a tough DD with high cp, preferably a tank then try to kill whatever i see

it's just my opinion, but a bd is not that strong in pvp by itself and i've seen pvp movies where the main guy was a PK, but the bish died and he was about to lose, the bd was just running after those guys, then just decided to stop, went to res a bish and the bish pretty much made sure those guys will have some trouble

probably it was one of the aquaris vids but that's not the point, it's just a fine example that the point is that with bd u need to assist with not killing, but debuffing/ressing, and in 1vs1 you'll lose anyway if it's a fair-play.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:47 am 
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Lhyno wrote:
with +con mj has even a better performance since that +50% resist is based on con

bd is yeah, a good damage dealer but give me a break pls....in pvps? rly?
it's worthless, while u can assist with any other skills u have and can ressurect in the meanwhile more useful characters, why would u go for dd-style?

after a dancer has danced, it's no more that a dark elven fighter with some assistance skills
i'd rather resurrect a bish, OL or a tough DD with high cp, preferably a tank then try to kill whatever i see

it's just my opinion, but a bd is not that strong in pvp by itself and i've seen pvp movies where the main guy was a PK, but the bish died and he was about to lose, the bd was just running after those guys, then just decided to stop, went to res a bish and the bish pretty much made sure those guys will have some trouble

probably it was one of the aquaris vids but that's not the point, it's just a fine example that the point is that with bd u need to assist with not killing, but debuffing/ressing, and in 1vs1 you'll lose anyway if it's a fair-play.


ahah watch pellegri playing xD...he sometimes even forgets about dancing when kiting people for A LOT with vesper bow...but this is only possible in extreme end game pvp with OE'd everything...most bd's forget about giving damage because their gears just aren't enough to do anything...


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