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Author:  Reisz [ Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:58 am ]
Post subject:  Help Here : Alpen Kookabur and Alpen Buffalos
i need some help for the spoil of this monsters. I searched on the search bar which of them where i can spoil specific items such as doom leather designs,Blue Wolf Plates, etc. but i cant find it. Pls Help me. Thanks

Spoils ??

Alpen Kookabura(The Baby One) = Spoils??
Alpen Kookabura(HP x1) = Spoils??
Alpen Kookabura(HP x2) = Spoils??
Alpen Kookabura(HP x4) = Spoil??

Alpen Buffalo(The Baby One) = Spoils??
Alpen Buffalo(HP x1) = Spoils??
Alpen Buffalo(HP x2) = Spoils??
Alpen Buffalo(HP x4) = Spoil??
Author:  Spoileras [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:06 pm ]
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The 3 kind of them (kookabure/buffalo/cougar) doesn't have the same spoils/drops.
I mean that even the same mobs e.g Buffalo x2 have different drop/spoil from place to place in the Beast Farm.
Does anyone have a Hint how to locate the one of your interest?

p.s
Admin...
Is there a possibility of adding a tooltip-label of some info about the mobs (like Mob_name,Mob_Id...) to the map locator?
Author:  razveck [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:05 pm ]
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i think u didnt understand the explaination that BeAGentleman gave. u can feed them to x4, so...if u want a x1 or x2 just stop when u need them

a 1/2 has some drops, when it goes to x1 it has other drops and so on...
Author:  Junkie [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:43 am ]
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No mate. Spoileras is right. Let's say you feed a Kookabura till it reaches hp x2, you kill, collect the drop. After it respawns, you feed it and kill it again, but the drop will be different. I think this problem is experienced on most of the pirate servers. Stupid l2j...

This works only for Kookabura and Buffalo though...
Author:  Spoileras [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:38 am ]
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No my friends,
Let me give an example.
You find a cougar at location "x" in Beast Farm, you feed it and spoil it at lvl2. You get x.d drops and x.s spoils of it.
If you do it again in the same mob you get the same x.d and x.s (always according to the chances the spesific mob gives).
If you go to location "y", do the same on a cougar lvl2, there is a posibility of 1/8 that you get y.d and y.s wich are totaly different from the x.d and x.s.
That is happening because at l2jdb there are 8 different mob-ids about a lvl2 cougar.
Look [urlhttp://lineage.pmfun.com/?s=alpen+cougar]here[/url]
How many lvl2 cougar you see? 8
Now I tried what Junkie says at the past but the same mob always gave me the same mats according it's droplist, although I raised it and spoiled it more than 20 times.
But when playing with chances you can't be 100% sure about it and I'm not.
I hope we find someone who has access to the source code and tell us what's going on.
Is there a different location for each of the 8? or there is a posibility, wich of the 8 will apear in the same place when transforming from lvl1 to lvl2?
Author:  Spoileras [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:13 pm ]
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Finaly, after finding a copy of a default l2jdb and took a look at javascript that handles the situation, here is how it goes:
1st they don't have diffenet spawn positions, all can became everything.
So...
1 cougar after fed with crystal can transform to (normal x1) :21494,21495, 21496, 21497 as its mob_id wich gives some drops and spoils.
If fed with golden can become (normal x1): 21490,21491, 21492, 21493
Now let's take e.g the one that fed with crystal, each one has 2 posibilities growing to lvl2 e.g the 21494 can become 21502 or 21504 with diff drops and spoils also.
Last the x2 e.g 21504 can become 21506,21828 (x4 aggresive) or 16015,16016 (trainned) with crystal again.

Here is the List of the jscript if someone want to take a look of it.

# Alpen Kookabura
21451: [0,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21452,21453, 21454, 21455],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21456,21457, 21458, 21459]},100],
21452: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21460,21462],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21453: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21461,21463],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21454: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21460,21462],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21455: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21461,21463],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21456: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21464,21466]},40],
21457: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21465,21467]},40],
21458: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21464,21466]},40],
21459: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21465,21467]},40],
21460: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21468,21824],[16017,16018]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21461: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21469,21825],[16017,16018]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21462: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21468,21824],[16017,16018]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21463: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21469,21825],[16017,16018]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21464: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21468,21824],[16017,16018]]},25],
21465: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21469,21825],[16017,16018]]},25],
21466: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21468,21824],[16017,16018]]},25],
21467: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21469,21825],[16017,16018]]},25],
# Alpen Buffalo
21470: [0,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21471,21472, 21473, 21474],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21475,21476, 21477, 21478]},100],
21471: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21479,21481],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21472: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21481,21482],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21473: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21479,21481],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21474: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21480,21482],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21475: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21483,21485]},40],
21476: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21484,21486]},40],
21477: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21483,21485]},40],
21478: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21484,21486]},40],
21479: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21487,21826],[16013,16014]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21480: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21488,21827],[16013,16014]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21481: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21487,21826],[16013,16014]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21482: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21488,21827],[16013,16014]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21483: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21487,21826],[16013,16014]]},25],
21484: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21488,21827],[16013,16014]]},25],
21485: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21487,21826],[16013,16014]]},25],
21486: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21488,21827],[16013,16014]]},25],
# Alpen Cougar
21489: [0,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21490,21491, 21492, 21493],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21494,21495, 21496, 21497]},100],
21490: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21498,21500],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21491: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21499,21501],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21492: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21498,21500],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21493: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21499,21501],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],
21494: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21502,21504]},40],
21495: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21503,21505]},40],
21496: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21502,21504]},40],
21497: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21503,21505]},40],
21498: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21506,21828],[16015,16016]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21499: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21507,21829],[16015,16016]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21500: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21506,21828],[16015,16016]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21501: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21507,21829],[16015,16016]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],
21502: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21506,21828],[16015,16016]]},25],
21503: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21507,21829],[16015,16016]]},25],
21504: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21506,21828],[16015,16016]]},25],
21505: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[[21507,21829],[16015,16016]]},25]

That's all!!!
Good Hunting 8)
Author:  Junkie [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:44 pm ]
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Uhhm...can someone translate that :)))?
Author:  Spoileras [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:43 am ]
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OK, look
Quote:
# Alpen Kookabura
21451: [0,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21452,21453, 21454, 21455],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[21456,21457, 21458, 21459]},100],

21451 is the Mob_ID for the initial one. (x1/2)
If you give it Golden can become 21452,21453,21454,21455 and if you feed it with Crystal 21456,21457,21458,21459. (x1)

Quote:
21452: [1,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[21460,21462],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},40],


Now if it became 21452 you can't raise it with Crystal (it's emprty) and with Golden will became 21460,21462. (x2)

Quote:
21460: [2,{GOLDEN_SPICE:[[21468,21824],[16017,16018]],CRYSTAL_SPICE:[]},25],


The 21460 with Golden again will become 21468,21824 (x4) or 16017,16018 (theese are the trainned)

Now if you ask me how do you recognize them in game, the answer is you don't.
If you ask me how do you find witch of them (mob_id) drops what you want. The answer is more compicated, because you need to find a site that gives info's about the mob_id in the droplist that displays or to read the droplist of the database.
That's way I ask The Admin if it's possible to have this kind of info in the mobs infos on the map or on the list.
I hope I helped :roll:
Admin PLZ!!! is it possible?
Author:  Spoileras [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:54 pm ]
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One step at a time, so

Quote:
If you ask me how do you find witch of them (mob_id) drops what you want. The answer is more compicated, because you need to find a site that gives info's about the mob_id in the droplist that displays or to read the droplist of the database.


If you bring a page with all the e.g Alpen buffalo
If you leave the mous above one of the results you'll see something like:
http://lineage.pmfun.com/npc/21483/alpen-buffalo.html
That's the mob_id
:P
That's the end.
Author:  DrGreenthumb [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:49 am ]
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ummm so MF lame...

if u feed 1/2 mob then u'll get 1x mob fighter or mage..... they have diffrent spoil,
same when u feed it again

it doesnt metter what food u use [l2joke]
just need to search what u need [x hp, mage/fighter] nothing more
Author:  Spoileras [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:39 pm ]
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Quote:
ummm so MF lame...

GTFO, you are the only MF Lame here.
Did I Know you? or do you Know me?
I wrote about the default l2jdb, gave the code and the explanation of it.
WTF are you giving us?
Dirty words? to prove what?
So go play werever and whatever you play and read/write when you know the subject.
And Finaly, speak and Write the way they the other do to you.
Author:  xxExecutionerxx [ Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:58 pm ]
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Spoileras wrote:
Quote:
ummm so MF lame...

GTFO, you are the only MF Lame here.
Did I Know you? or do you Know me?
I wrote about the default l2jdb, gave the code and the explanation of it.
WTF are you giving us?
Dirty words? to prove what?
So go play werever and whatever you play and read/write when you know the subject.
And Finaly, speak and Write the way they the other do to you.


<3 spoileras... fatous olouuus...
Author:  Spoileras [ Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:12 am ]
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Quote:
... fatous olouuus...

I'm not intend too :wink:
I'm too Old to act like this but I realy got very ungry when I hear dirty words for NO reason.

p.s
+10 Totaly agree with your signature :)
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