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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:48 pm 
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What do you prefer and why?? Soul bow or carnage??

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:13 pm 
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i prefer soul bow cause it has almost double p atk than carnage


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:20 pm 
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Ruud44 wrote:
i prefer soul bow cause it has almost double p atk than carnage


neah...it has only 90 p.atk more than carnage....carnage is slow and sb very slow but on sb u can put qr so sb>carnage bop qr oe++++ is the best alternative if u dont hav db focus

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:21 pm 
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nonelikeme wrote:
Ruud44 wrote:
i prefer soul bow cause it has almost double p atk than carnage


neah...it has only 90 p.atk more than carnage....carnage is slow and sb very slow but on sb u can put qr so sb>carnage bop qr oe++++ is the best alternative if u dont hav db focus


yes forgot to mention that it has better SA too :)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:31 pm 
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he is talking about sb and carnage not db and bop...i think carnage is bether because its faster....in a HE if you shoot a arrow with sb u can shot it 1.5x faster with carnage...for only 90 p att diffrence between them, it makes a lot of diference...


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:08 pm 
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and if U compare the mats needed for Carnage and soul bow - soul bow cost 2times more mats, so you cas easily gat the missing Patak with overenchanting it, and whent it brokes, just build another one...


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:14 pm 
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and if U compare the mats needed for Carnage and soul bow - soul bow cost 2times more mats, so you cas easily gat the missing Patak with overenchanting it, and whent it brokes, just build another one...


with 60 % chances?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:22 pm 
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Soul Bow got QR, carnage got Qnothing. Stun depends on con, for that you need patk, for patk you need SB.
Ofc the bad part of it that stun shot will be slow, but it will have way more chance to land a stun condition than carnage can and QR makes it easier to shoot it more times.
For pve again SB is better, less as much as mp cost as carnage got in dps.
Mats? Yep, more mats, but same ss consumption!
Lastly, it looks way better than carnage 8)
So I would choose Soul Bow over carnage, that's for sure.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:25 pm 
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Lynxcz wrote:
and if U compare the mats needed for Carnage and soul bow - soul bow cost 2times more mats, so you cas easily gat the missing Patak with overenchanting it, and whent it brokes, just build another one...


you can oe the sb too..and on sb u can put good SA like qr very good at pvp and on carnage best best choice at SA its mana up so for pvp i will choose sb and for pve carnage

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:50 pm 
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Oh god..
All good archers will go for CS Soul Bow or simple BOP CS, and Draconic directly.
Quick Recoverry on very slow bows means nothing.
Cheap Shot , instead.. means more than you need.

All who are sayng that they don't need cheap shot on archers , don't pve a lot.
They're used with middle+.
On retail for example , i never saw one with other SA than CS. All of us used/use CS/Focus.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:08 pm 
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KentZ0ne wrote:
Oh god..
All good archers will go for CS Soul Bow or simple BOP CS, and Draconic directly.
Quick Recoverry on very slow bows means nothing.
Cheap Shot , instead.. means more than you need.

All who are sayng that they don't need cheap shot on archers , don't pve a lot.
They're used with middle+.
On retail for example , i never saw one with other SA than CS. All of us used/use CS/Focus.


Well, I just simply shooted with Soul Bow, while I was with HE on l2oldschools, I always had mp for everything and only because I had Pain of sagittarius and no SAs. So I don't think so that CS would be useful, maybe QR not as well, but I rather go for QR then CS, I never had problem with MP.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:43 pm 
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Lhyno wrote:
I never had problem with MP.


i totaly agree with Kentzone. playing archer without cs bow on retail is like tanking baium with bishop.

and soul bow is better than carnage for one simple reason. DPS.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:47 pm 
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When i'm talking about PvE , i'm refering on long term full parties. And CS really do his job. I don't know about you , but i'm used to make pagan , mos, IT , stakato or PI parties and trust me.. that CS with Pain Of Saggi = endless mana. And CS is meant to be an advantage for cliker users too. Ofc some of them are smart.. and use cliker for pain of saggi too, not only for assisting :)


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:44 pm 
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Thx for your help guys.... :D

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