i serched for class that has high hp heavy armor does nice dmg so i started playing with gladdy but i stumbled on a problem for tyrant( second class that almost meets my requirments) you only have to buy/find fist but for gladdy u have to buy 2swords and then a dual stamp to fuse them so in my opinion to make fists is cheaper is it true>?

retard that all i can sai.

hmmm yeah... it is a disadvantage but i still wonder why u picked glad its true he has reasonable dmg and he is heave but i would have gone for destroyer (orcs forever ) )glads are good fighters but u have to have a very good strategy to make smt of it...
PS: i hate glads, necro, th... anything that is ussualy overpowered

@guzeris: man, don't be impolite with new people!!! It's not shamfull to ask if ur new to l2, but it's shamefull if u act liku u know everything.

For Ekranas13:
welcome to forum!!

U have more options for classes in heavy with lots of hp. These classes are:
Gladiator. Destroyer, Tyrant and Dwarfs.
Well, gladiator is the most popular but so is Destroyer. Tehnically Duals ARE HARDER TO CRAFT. well, U can craft D and C grade at almost any blacksmith.
B grade u can craft only in oren or aden, but u will need a crafting stamp, wich u can buy from other players or from caslte leaders. It can be hard to get, depend on server. A grade and S grade u can craft only at blacksmith of Mammon and u still need crafting stamp.
since gladi is such a popular class, and the fact that other classes use duals, u may buy them from other players.
A fist is much more easier to get or to craft, coz u can exchange up to B grade, any wepon for a same lvl fist; for example u can exchange a damascus sword(top B sword) for belion cestus(top B fist).

PS: (sorry for double posting): Check the forum for aswers first. look at glady topics, destro topics, glady vs tyrant... all kinds of topics regarding gladi and other classes. BUT FIRST U HAVE TO LOOK!!!

Gladiator's duals are much more easier to craft... by the time you level it up to 76 lvl, all of the castles must be taken if the server has good population and one craft stamp is 2-5kk. And BTW you can craft one sword B grade - Keshanberk for example and to fight with it cause you have this mastery and you can use the skills and you still do pretty nice dmg. B grade duals are cheaper because you need only adena. You need 2 Sword of Delusion which you will exchange in Blacksmtih of Mammon for 2 Tsurugi and you will dual them in oren for 45 SOP.

Breal, ur the gladi moster on this server, it would be a waste of time to put up with u, i have no chance . Still, i'm pro-Orc and i agree with Paagrio on "Orc above all". I played on 3 servers and there nobody sold Craft stamps, the bastards, just so day can have the monopoly on them. I like classic craftng of items

On my server dual craft stamp cost 3kk and duals are the easiest thing to craft realy and cheapest espesialy S grade. DLE*tallum - cheapest S weapon in l2. Where i play u get tallum for about 200kk + DLE 550kk so smewhere 900kk with all the stuff. When we compare it with draco bow or arcana mace its like u get 3 S duals for one draco bow

thanks for the welcome pill i saw dual craft stamps for 20kk il try tyrant herd u can do nice triks with zealot and bison and i didnt know u can exhange stuff where can u do that? how does it work?

hmmm d&c grade at mamon and u can exchange with other players... i would trade belion cestus for damascus... dont know about kesh... i think kesh is low grade...

yeah everyone is going to trade with you Tyrant is the killing machine in l2. You level up faster with Tyrant and Prophet than with SH and SE

i have lvl 43 tyrant and when i use fury and lvl 52pp buffs my atak speed is 833 qiute nice.... altho eats a lot of hp....

i dont agreee with u... i say that SE+tyrant grows faster than tyrant and PP because tyrant need VR and ppl would trade damascus for bellion cestus...

hemoragie, what's the use of having a se if u gto a healer with u? pp is much more better coz of zerk and atack speed. and yeah, a tyrant with a pp can lvl light speed

in case u just need buffs and after u go alone lvling, i suggest a WC. but with somebody around, pp