Lineage 2 Game PMfun Forum :: General BD/SWS thread!

So, I have some questions about BD since Im playing one now!

What dyes should I use? I mean, I dont need stupid PVE dyes, but for PVP!

What subclass skills should i go for? I was thinking of emergent MDEF/PDEF LVL 6? Which better, since BD's have MDEF passive, should I go for LVL 6 PDEF and master PDEF?

Kinda dunno what to go for BD!
Augmentations : Should I go for the passive mana decrease when dancing or smthing else? If yes, by how much will it decrease mana consumption?
TY! :p
Ask any BD/SWS related questions in this thread plz!

drop str and hack con

GoDs3nD wrote:

drop str and hack con

enough said.

GoDs3nD <--- PR0 BD N0T!

u go pvp selfbuffed against 10 clans?
ofc not .. u have a healer, a buffer etc etc
putting con won't make u moar "efficient" in pvp especially decreasing str (there is maj for better stun resist btw)

more cp pots-->higher chance to survive

a bit moar cp,hp-->higher chance to survive

with +con mj has even a better performance since that +50% resist is based on con

bd is yeah, a good damage dealer but give me a break pls....in pvps? rly?
it's worthless, while u can assist with any other skills u have and can ressurect in the meanwhile more useful characters, why would u go for dd-style?

after a dancer has danced, it's no more that a dark elven fighter with some assistance skills
i'd rather resurrect a bish, OL or a tough DD with high cp, preferably a tank then try to kill whatever i see

it's just my opinion, but a bd is not that strong in pvp by itself and i've seen pvp movies where the main guy was a PK, but the bish died and he was about to lose, the bd was just running after those guys, then just decided to stop, went to res a bish and the bish pretty much made sure those guys will have some trouble

probably it was one of the aquaris vids but that's not the point, it's just a fine example that the point is that with bd u need to assist with not killing, but debuffing/ressing, and in 1vs1 you'll lose anyway if it's a fair-play.

Author:	DarkEyes [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:24 pm ]
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EUPHORIA wrote: So, I have some questions about BD since Im playing one now! What dyes should I use? I mean, I dont need stupid PVE dyes, but for PVP! What subclass skills should i go for? I was thinking of emergent MDEF/PDEF LVL 6? Which better, since BD's have MDEF passive, should I go for LVL 6 PDEF and master PDEF? Kinda dunno what to go for BD! Augmentations : Should I go for the passive mana decrease when dancing or smthing else? If yes, by how much will it decrease mana consumption? TY! :p Ask any BD/SWS related questions in this thread plz! For pvp I use +str+con alot of hp and p.atk and for sub go SK if u want to be 1 hard mutha fuka or duelist for fast owning Don't criticize me Im new in the forum

Author:	Lhyno [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:41 pm ]
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chance haste is not a bad thing when u have to redance passive clarity? imo it's not rly worth it, go for sth that is for parties, or celestial if u're being targeted, losing a dancer in a long-run mass pvp is a big deal for pvp imo +5con -5str[or -2/3dex and -3/2str] since u don't rly use any skills str is not rly sth u need, if assist with bow then u should lower dex a bit, but +5con is a must, if u leave it just be, u'll be the paper target i'd rather just arrest things, res ppl, use demonic blade dance/hex/pb/freezing strike and such stuff and for that str is useless, in 1vs1 u're done for anyway as for subclass, go for resists, cp, atk/cspd imo, pdef is just a secondary idea, sure, gracia is the fighter's era so mdef doesn't rly mean anything

Author:	Xmvp [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:43 pm ]
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should i make an "Elven Elder" thread too? pff. LE: lol LHYNO -str? haha

Author:	Xmvp [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:46 pm ]
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+5 str -5 smth (dex or con w/e u want). +con is not a must

Author:	Xmvp [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:52 pm ]
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no warry u won't get dynasty so soon ^_^ ps: do u even know how much crit dmg makes a bd with db+focus?

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Author:	GoDs3nD [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:21 pm ]
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1st of all there is already topic made by Vawned for nubs like u so search b4 asking nab questions drop str and hack con use hp duals play agro dude in pvp and get counter cele,boost cp,greater mdef IMO /end

Author:	Xmvp [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:40 am ]
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GoDs3nD wrote: drop str and hack con enough said. GoDs3nD <--- PR0 BD N0T!

Author:	GoDs3nD [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:44 am ]
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Xmvp wrote: GoDs3nD wrote: drop str and hack con enough said. GoDs3nD <--- PR0 BD N0T! oh okay!go for str and become a stunmagnet and die in 1 or 2 hits i play bd in pvp that way and its pretty efficient

Author:	Xmvp [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:57 am ]
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u go pvp selfbuffed against 10 clans? ofc not .. u have a healer, a buffer etc etc putting con won't make u moar "efficient" in pvp especially decreasing str (there is maj for better stun resist btw)

Author:	GoDs3nD [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:00 am ]
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Xmvp wrote: u go pvp selfbuffed against 10 clans? ofc not .. u have a healer, a buffer etc etc putting con won't make u moar "efficient" in pvp especially decreasing str (there is maj for better stun resist btw) more cp pots-->higher chance to survive a bit moar cp,hp-->higher chance to survive

Author:	Xmvp [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:04 am ]
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GoDs3nD wrote: more cp pots-->higher chance to survive lame reason GoDs3nD wrote: a bit moar cp,hp-->higher chance to survive a bishop recovers that "bit moar hp" in 0,5 seconds nyga plyz

Author:	MustLoveL2 [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:07 am ]
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atm with all the skill enchants and attributes and buffs and shit bladedancers do pimp damage with a bow and with a cancel stick they are really good...so dropping str is not that good...

Author:	GoDs3nD [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:12 am ]
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diff playstyles.. @xmvp-nt the reason is lame its u

Author:	Lhyno [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:39 am ]
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with +con mj has even a better performance since that +50% resist is based on con bd is yeah, a good damage dealer but give me a break pls....in pvps? rly? it's worthless, while u can assist with any other skills u have and can ressurect in the meanwhile more useful characters, why would u go for dd-style? after a dancer has danced, it's no more that a dark elven fighter with some assistance skills i'd rather resurrect a bish, OL or a tough DD with high cp, preferably a tank then try to kill whatever i see it's just my opinion, but a bd is not that strong in pvp by itself and i've seen pvp movies where the main guy was a PK, but the bish died and he was about to lose, the bd was just running after those guys, then just decided to stop, went to res a bish and the bish pretty much made sure those guys will have some trouble probably it was one of the aquaris vids but that's not the point, it's just a fine example that the point is that with bd u need to assist with not killing, but debuffing/ressing, and in 1vs1 you'll lose anyway if it's a fair-play.

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Author:	MustLoveL2 [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:47 am ]
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Lhyno wrote: with +con mj has even a better performance since that +50% resist is based on con bd is yeah, a good damage dealer but give me a break pls....in pvps? rly? it's worthless, while u can assist with any other skills u have and can ressurect in the meanwhile more useful characters, why would u go for dd-style? after a dancer has danced, it's no more that a dark elven fighter with some assistance skills i'd rather resurrect a bish, OL or a tough DD with high cp, preferably a tank then try to kill whatever i see it's just my opinion, but a bd is not that strong in pvp by itself and i've seen pvp movies where the main guy was a PK, but the bish died and he was about to lose, the bd was just running after those guys, then just decided to stop, went to res a bish and the bish pretty much made sure those guys will have some trouble probably it was one of the aquaris vids but that's not the point, it's just a fine example that the point is that with bd u need to assist with not killing, but debuffing/ressing, and in 1vs1 you'll lose anyway if it's a fair-play. ahah watch pellegri playing xD...he sometimes even forgets about dancing when kiting people for A LOT with vesper bow...but this is only possible in extreme end game pvp with OE'd everything...most bd's forget about giving damage because their gears just aren't enough to do anything...